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« Reply #16935 on: February 07, 2021, 07:09:42 PM »





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« Reply #16936 on: February 07, 2021, 07:16:24 PM »

Derrick Rose has played for every team Thibs has coached. 
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« Reply #16937 on: February 07, 2021, 07:26:48 PM »

Whats also cool about the Rose deal is that our management team bested NETS, CLIPPERS and others.
Unless you think Pistons were doing Derrick a solid and would only send him to NY
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« Reply #16938 on: February 07, 2021, 07:35:34 PM »

[Begley] At least one team in contention for the playoffs expressed some interest in acquiring Payton via trade.
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« Reply #16939 on: February 07, 2021, 07:40:52 PM »

All this Rivers stuff is funny

Down 5 after 3, we get even off 2 Rivers dimes and a Rivers THREE.

Yawn......
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« Reply #16940 on: February 07, 2021, 08:10:00 PM »

With 45 days to the trade deadline and a new player added to Thibs rotation
A) Another deal could materialize
B) Knicks aren't desperate to make a move and could stand pat.   

Knicks will certainly let things shake out and wait to make a trade when they have the most leverage.
A lot will be determined by which teams are the most serious buyers at the deadline and what they need.
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« Reply #16941 on: February 07, 2021, 08:17:28 PM »

Thibs could give Payton, Rose and IQ each 16 minutes a game (on average) and keep each player involved and happy. 

Probably break down as picking two of those three to play in any given game and giving one 30 and the other 18 minutes.

Just depends on who is playing well and matchups.

We won't have to watch Payton when he is slumping.
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« Reply #16942 on: February 07, 2021, 09:01:19 PM »

All this Rivers stuff is funny

Down 5 after 3, we get even off 2 Rivers dimes and a Rivers THREE.

Yawn......

Then what happened? I don’t recall the game ending in a tie.
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« Reply #16943 on: February 07, 2021, 10:34:51 PM »

Feb 8 2019

DSJ put up  31 Points, 8 Assists vs .... guess who?

The PISTONS!

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« Reply #16944 on: February 07, 2021, 10:58:43 PM »

Rose has played slightly less mpg for the Pistons than Rivers has been playing for us. Simple 1 for 1 swap could be the totality of the rotation change.
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« Reply #16945 on: February 07, 2021, 11:46:57 PM »

Rose has played slightly less mpg for the Pistons than Rivers has been playing for us. Simple 1 for 1 swap could be the totality of the rotation change.

Right you are. 

Here is a significant stat, and why this trade IS GOOD FOR QUICKLEY. 

In similar minutes and number of games?  Getting to the charity stripe? 

Austin is 7-10 from the FT Line.  Payton is 36-51, for a .706%.  Rose is 42-50 for a .840%

Austin is a better long range shooter, like 375% vs 333%.

But Rose is a better penetrator, and one would thus extrapolate, better and finding back cutters and running the pick and roll.  And when he goes to the rack, which he does with considerable frequency, he is a career .827% FT shooter

His one season as a Knick Derrick converted 221-253 [.874%]

Rivers .645%

Payton .629%

Ntilikina .774%

Quickley .929% [52-56 in 19 minutes a night over 20 games].

Last season with Detroit, in 26 minutes a night, his stat line was 18.1 ppg, 2.4 boards, and 5.6 assists, with 121-139 from the FT line for a .871%.  THAT IS FUCKING SOLID. 

Pretty much what he did for Thibs and Ryan Saunders the year before in Minny, where his 3-point shooting came in at .370%, down to .306% last season. 

Elfrid?  Last season for the Knicks, in similar minutes [28.4] Elfrid's stat line was 10.0 ppg, 4.7 reb, and 7.2 assists.  He was 49-86 from the FT line, for a .570%.  Doing better this year, where he is 36-51, for a .706%.

For the forseeable future we are going to see

Robinson-Randle-Bullock-Barrett-Payton

Noel/Gibson-Toppin-Burks-Quickley-Rose

Knox-Rivers-Ntilikina

Obviously Rose is not the player he was before his injury, but for 20 minutes a night? 

I can hardly wait for him to become IQ's running buddy.

Slow Immanuel's development? 

PuhLEESE. 
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« Reply #16946 on: February 08, 2021, 12:24:38 AM »

Rose also comes in with a better assist to TO ratio than anyone on the team. Rose can tutor Payton and Barrett as much as Quickley in that regard.
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« Reply #16947 on: February 08, 2021, 01:28:05 AM »

You’re sure all POSITIVE PUSSIES!

Too bad Nagel is no longer around these parts to give you all his secular blessings!

May all the ancient gods bless your heathen spirits 😁😻🙃

PS. How does a no-defense-no-3-point-shooter help this team? Color me baffled 😳
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« Reply #16948 on: February 08, 2021, 03:46:56 AM »

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« Reply #16949 on: February 08, 2021, 04:01:07 AM »

Not arguing on the no D. Rivers can’t defend so if you swap his no D for Rose who can still put pressure on the teeth of any defense, he creates looks for and takes pressure off the other guys he’s playing with. When Payton is doing it that’s great, but we can’t count on it. Quickley needs his shots and reps, but is a rook and will struggle. The offensive plus vs. the defensive minus is what will determine the size of his role going forward. I think he’s past trying to be the athlete he was and has focused on being a successful ball player with what he has left. He definitely fits somewhere in our rotation.
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