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Re: Knicks
« Reply #19110 on: June 03, 2021, 04:09:42 PM »

You can see the difference between a Trae Young and a Barrett.

RJs dad - God bless him - had him playing with grown men in the summers in NYC.  An atmosphere that was not conducive to leading, more to surviving and being a good soldier

Have to pull that out of Barrett now.  Year 2 was better.  Now the big step should come.

I actually think dealing Julius unleashes Barrett a little.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #19111 on: June 03, 2021, 04:39:41 PM »


The better team won, genius.


The team that PLAYED better won - as WE did in 10 of 11 prior playoff games vs Hawks and all three reg season games vs that team this year.

To dismiss this as "we are not as good as them" is foolishness

Chamaco, I answered you predictably silly point way ahead of time, just after game 4, like this:

I'm afraid they just have more talent than we do.

They were never whole during the season, and now they are.

Barring a miracle come-back, we had a wonderful run which ends with Atlanta this year.

Now, repeat with me:

Atlanta has more talent.

They're just a better team.

Or, to quote you, "we are not as good as them". No foolishness.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #19112 on: June 03, 2021, 05:20:03 PM »

Centers win playoff series if they establish dominance over the other team’s bigs. Clint did just that.

Dwight v. Capella in round two is the guts of the series if Embid remains unavailable. If Embid becomes available, Clint will be as effective as Nerlins and Taj were against him.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #19113 on: June 03, 2021, 07:11:08 PM »

Here are the tabs we hold or can choose to pick up going into next year

Robinson Pelle
Randle Toppin
Knox
Barrett Quickley
Viladosa

There are negotiations in order for Jules and Mitch, but I trust Leon there to get it done and not break us in the process.

We have a ton of cash and assets in terms of current and future picks. The top priority should be a killer wing or two, then a killer guard or two.
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Re: Knicks Fans Cost Their Team, As Predicted
« Reply #19114 on: June 04, 2021, 01:37:46 AM »

The Knicks will lose this series. And the fans will be to blame.


In the final minute of Game 5, Young sized up Knicks forward Reggie Bullock, waved off his teammate John Collins and went to work. The shot clock ticked down, and Young took a few dribbles to his left. One in-between-the-legs move later, he lifted from 30 feet away and hit a 3-pointer to quiet the crowd.

 

As soon as the shot went in, Young took a bow at center court and waved goodbye to the crowd that had taunted him throughout this Eastern Conference first-round playoff series.

"I know where we are. I know it's a bunch of shows around this city," Young said of the bow after the Hawks' 103-89 victory. "And I know what they do when the show is over."

It was Young who got the last laugh on Wednesday, as the Hawks eliminated the Knicks in five games. The series started with Knicks fans chanting "F--- Trae Young," and one fan even spit on Young during Game 2.

But when all was said and done, Young and the Hawks moved on to the second round, and Young cemented his status as a Madison Square Garden villain.

 

 
"It feels good," Young said. "Like I said since the beginning of the season, I feel like I've worked my whole life for this moment, to play in the playoffs on the biggest stage. I put in a lot of work. A lot of the guys who have been here have done the same. It feels good to win it. It feels good to win the series. Now, we get to focus on the second round."

Young explained it would have been a sweet victory whether the Hawks prevailed at home or on the road but that winning in New York City -- "with all the fans still chanting the same stuff" -- felt good too.

Collins, who has been Young's teammate for three seasons with Atlanta, said Young feeds off the trash talk from the crowd.

"Trae loves this stuff," Collins said. "He's in the gym grinding.  You see him pandering and playing to the crowd. Certain guys get motivated and find their reason and extra motivation to play based off the crowd. The crowd does give you energy.
 
"Trae loves to use that negative energy and use it as fuel for him. For whatever fans who want to keep antagonizing that man, please go right ahead. It's not gonna bother him, and we got his back, as well."


Young backed up his talk with his play. He finished with 36 points and nine assists in Game 5, and he averaged 29.2 points and 9.8 assists per game for the series. He also hit the winner in Game 1 to get the series started.


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31557376/trae-young-takes-bow-atlanta-hawks-finish-new-york-knicks-know-do-show-over

You, sir, are a tedious motherfucker.

If we all say that the Knicks lost because of the fans, and you're a genius, will you go away?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #19115 on: June 04, 2021, 01:50:33 AM »

He’s as persistent as his own herpes. Mental illness works that way sometimes.

Among FAs the most interesting guards are Paul, Lonzo, and THT.

Among wings it looks like Klaw, Otto Porter, Fornier, Rudy Gay, and Batum.
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« Reply #19116 on: June 04, 2021, 05:37:06 AM »

Bouknight , Duarte, and Bassey are the three I like out of the draft, though we’d either have to get lucky or make some moves to get them.

Mitch Pelle Bassey
Randle Obi Taj
Porter Burks Duarte
RJ Bouknight Quickley
Rose Lonzo Viladosa

I’d be fine with that as the 2022 Knicks.
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Re: Knicks Fans Cost Their Team, As Predicted
« Reply #19117 on: June 04, 2021, 07:18:08 AM »

The Knicks will lose this series. And the fans will be to blame.


In the final minute of Game 5, Young sized up Knicks forward Reggie Bullock, waved off his teammate John Collins and went to work. The shot clock ticked down, and Young took a few dribbles to his left. One in-between-the-legs move later, he lifted from 30 feet away and hit a 3-pointer to quiet the crowd.

 

As soon as the shot went in, Young took a bow at center court and waved goodbye to the crowd that had taunted him throughout this Eastern Conference first-round playoff series.

"I know where we are. I know it's a bunch of shows around this city," Young said of the bow after the Hawks' 103-89 victory. "And I know what they do when the show is over."

It was Young who got the last laugh on Wednesday, as the Hawks eliminated the Knicks in five games. The series started with Knicks fans chanting "F--- Trae Young," and one fan even spit on Young during Game 2.

But when all was said and done, Young and the Hawks moved on to the second round, and Young cemented his status as a Madison Square Garden villain.

 

 
"It feels good," Young said. "Like I said since the beginning of the season, I feel like I've worked my whole life for this moment, to play in the playoffs on the biggest stage. I put in a lot of work. A lot of the guys who have been here have done the same. It feels good to win it. It feels good to win the series. Now, we get to focus on the second round."

Young explained it would have been a sweet victory whether the Hawks prevailed at home or on the road but that winning in New York City -- "with all the fans still chanting the same stuff" -- felt good too.

Collins, who has been Young's teammate for three seasons with Atlanta, said Young feeds off the trash talk from the crowd.

"Trae loves this stuff," Collins said. "He's in the gym grinding.  You see him pandering and playing to the crowd. Certain guys get motivated and find their reason and extra motivation to play based off the crowd. The crowd does give you energy.
 
"Trae loves to use that negative energy and use it as fuel for him. For whatever fans who want to keep antagonizing that man, please go right ahead. It's not gonna bother him, and we got his back, as well."


Young backed up his talk with his play. He finished with 36 points and nine assists in Game 5, and he averaged 29.2 points and 9.8 assists per game for the series. He also hit the winner in Game 1 to get the series started.


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31557376/trae-young-takes-bow-atlanta-hawks-finish-new-york-knicks-know-do-show-over

You, sir, are a tedious motherfucker.

If we all say that the Knicks lost because of the fans, and you're a genius, will you go away?

Someone should warn you.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #19118 on: June 04, 2021, 01:25:20 PM »

You can see the difference between a Trae Young and a Barrett.

RJs dad - God bless him - had him playing with grown men in the summers in NYC.  An atmosphere that was not conducive to leading, more to surviving and being a good soldier

Have to pull that out of Barrett now.  Year 2 was better.  Now the big step should come.

I actually think dealing Julius unleashes Barrett a little.

This is an interesting take.
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« Reply #19119 on: June 04, 2021, 01:54:28 PM »

You can see the difference between a Trae Young and a Barrett.

RJs dad - God bless him - had him playing with grown men in the summers in NYC.  An atmosphere that was not conducive to leading, more to surviving and being a good soldier

Have to pull that out of Barrett now.  Year 2 was better.  Now the big step should come.

I actually think dealing Julius unleashes Barrett a little.

This is an interesting take.

Yes it is. I'm not sure it's correct or incorrect.
To me, they are very different NOT comparable players, and the major difference in their development paths would seem to be age.


Trae is 22. RJ is 20.
Trae shot .418 as a 20 year old, .438 two years later. RJ moving from .402 as a 19 year old to .441 as a 20 year old.

But we are not looking for RJ to become Trae, more DeRozan maybe or Butler. Butler, by the way, didn't really become Butler until about age 25 or 26.

No Julius might hasten the development of RJ's stats, but I'm not sure his development as a basketball player. No hurry as long as he stays on track, it's been a fine, fine growth curve so far.


*** Bernard by the way, became Bernard, by playing with grown men while not yet grown so I'm a little skeptical of this produces good soldiers not leaders theory.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #19120 on: June 04, 2021, 02:36:50 PM »

Trading Julius would be insane. Knicks need another bigman to give him help inside. Not the beginning of the end but the end of the beginning. No need to panic like the last time the team made the play-offs.
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« Reply #19121 on: June 04, 2021, 02:37:19 PM »

Kiid doesn’t ball so he’s out of his depth in this discussion.
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« Reply #19122 on: June 04, 2021, 02:37:57 PM »

Trading Julius would be insane. Knicks need another bigman to give him help inside. Not the beginning of the end but the end of the beginning. No need to panic like the last time the team made the play-offs.
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« Reply #19123 on: June 04, 2021, 09:53:26 PM »

RIVERS

Now HARDAWAY

Too f-in funny
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« Reply #19124 on: June 05, 2021, 09:43:30 PM »

I didn’t get the opportunity to watch as much as I would have liked in the series but I like what I saw down the stretch of the regular season.

I liked what saw of Julius but not convinced he’s a number one but I sure as hell wouldn’t think of trading him unless some kind of once 8n a lifetime can’t pass it up offer comes through.

I don’t see that in the realm of possibility.

What I did see in this team was a positive change in attitude and that puts in a place we’re big guns are wanna come to 5he Mecca.

This was the first time in a loooong time I paid for the extra sports package to watch this franchise.

I’m satisfied with this season and look forward to see what Leon Rose and Thibs put on the floor next season.

Long time no see, fellas.

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