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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[bodiddley]

Fox isn't much of a team player.  A weak defender.  Doesn't seem to be a leader too.
He's also plateau-ed.  And his 3-point % down as he ups the volume.
Yes, he is part of Sacto's woes.

Build around Simmons and TyH.
Improved D. 
Great deal for Sacto, imo.

Is Fox a savior for PHI?
He can score and push the pace.
Thybulle and Danny Green can help guard PG's as needed.  (also Maxey).
Use a defensive scheme to funnel things to Embiid.  Sacto hasn't had a rim deterrent during Fox's tenure.   And if Fox doesn't fit with his new friends, he is a movable asset.

Bagley a useful rotation piece, especially if Embiid misses time.
Might be the best deal '6ers can get.
Time's ticking on the Simmons mess there ...
And reports are they would prefer to ship Simmons out West.

[kidcarter8]

Thybulle and Danny Green can help guard PG's as needed.  (also Maxey).


- I have been a  big Mattise Thybule guy from the getgo - but he didnt show well in key spots last year.  Can he be a 2-way effective guy?  And is his D efficiency (see playoff loss) a bit overstated ?

Good guy to have around.  Tough guy to figure minutes for.

[lesterluv]

I'd be very happy to run this season with what we got.

And maybe we will, but I'd be mildly surprised if we made it through without a significant move, and extremely so through the summer.

There is a plan. It's not get to ____X and sit and spin. It's not sit and watch 'em grow.

The brain trust means business. Keep upgrading. Win every trade. Get Better. Better. Better. Flex, depth and assets for when the big one calls, the medium one or the small.

But no worries, they seem quite talented. There will be no Eddy Curry² or Bargnani² or Melo² fiascos.

Just don't get tooooooooo attached to stuff.

[kidcarter8]

Getting Carmelo Anthony was not a negative

But good post.

(Sweeeeet spin move by Melo the other night - will enjoy watching him with LAL)

[bodiddley]

Regular season Thybulle looked devastating on D.  Playoffs were a learning experience.
He seems to have a decent stroke that can be developed.

At worst, he's Shumpert.  Likely akin to Marcus Smart, a pitbull defender you can rely on to make plays and up the intensity.  But he could up his game to become a genuine 3&D stud.  I'd say Danny Green is a pretty perfect mentor for Thybull.  I'm quite high on Thybulle.  And since PHI doesn't need to start him, he's in a real good spot.

[kidcarter8]

Fox isn't much of a team player.  A weak defender.  Doesn't seem to be a leader too.


Appreciate you, Bo - but these type posts are your true weakness

[bodiddley]

Succinct player evaluation.
I don't think Fox is an easy guy to play with or build around.
I'd like to hear alternative theories on why Sacto has been a mess the past few years.

[kidcarter8]

15 straight losing years


Last 2 years "demise"?

Mostly about Bagley

[bodiddley]

SacKings had a string of bad drafting:

2011: #7 pick Biyombo , immediately traded for Jimmer!

2012: #5 Thomas Robinson -- never found a role.  50% FT.  Out of the League at 25.
........... next two picks: Lillard & Harrison Barnes

2013: #7 Ben McLemore.  Weak draft.  McCollum was the pick here.  Giannis, Gobert were out there.

2014: # 8 Nick Stauskas. Talent drop-off after Randle at #7. Still plenty of solid role players.
And some starters: LaVine, Gary Harris, Capela, Utah Bogdanovic , Jurkic/Nurkic ...

2015: #6 Willie Cauley Stein. 
Weak draft, historically bad Top 10.  But Dev Booker and Myles Turner

5 years of picking between #5-8 wasted.  WCS and McLemore were below average starters for a couple years. Their lone Top 5 pick was a bust.  Looks like just guys without enough talent.

Then their drafting improved:
2016: #8 Marquese Chriss, traded immediately to PHX for Bogdanovic!
2017: #5 DeA Fox (talent drop off from 6-9)
2018: #2 Bagley (over Luca, Trae, Jaren Jax)
-- 2019: No 1st rounder --
2020: #12 TyH
2021: #9 Davion Mitchell

That's 4 out of 5 good drafts, and the mistake was a #2 pick, which you can't go too wrong with.

[bodiddley]

Randle out for personal reasons.

ObiT and Knox expected to get long run.

[kidcarter8]

Yeah - second game roster - look will be totally different - as I posted

Nerlens/Mitch?  Any word?

KYRIE now able to practice, may play vs Sixers - interesting development as their facility is actually an office building of some sorts.

heh

[carlos123]

Yeah - second game roster - look will be totally different - as I posted

Nerlens/Mitch?  Any word?

KYRIE now able to practice, may play vs Sixers - interesting development as their facility is actually an office building of some sorts.

heh

"heh is my best argument".  Chamaco J. Cartero

[kidcarter8]

No Randle.  No Mitch. 

[kidcarter8]

Achiuwa eating up R Williams tonight

Scottie Barnes 8 assists halfway through third

[chipstern]

Knicks were 24-of-52 from beyond the arc. 

Kevin 4-5 in the first half [12-6-1 in 20 minutes]

Grimes 2-2 in Gar Barge Time. 

Obi 2-6, but 13-8 with an assist, a steal and 2 blocks. 

RJ 4-8

Quickley 3-5

Rose 3-3 with 15-4-8-2 in 19 minutes. 



The Knicks put up 27 assists. 

Good Lordy, we've got some depth, some talent and a PURPOSE.  My Name Is Mister Thibs wanted treys?  Motherfucker got treys.