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« Reply #24960 on: September 21, 2022, 06:40:09 PM »

Summer of 2023?

Knicks #1

Dallas #1 [Top 10 Protected]

Wizards #1 [Top 14 Protected]

Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmm



Washington has a nice rookie in Johnny Davis, plus a seemingly healthy Beals, Porzingis, Gafford, Kuzma, Hachiumura, Avdija, Kispert and some nice role players.  Their pick could very well convey. 

Three mid-first round #1 picks in the summer of 2023?  A nice tangible asset come December 2022-February 2023-June/July 2023. 

Onwards. 
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« Reply #24961 on: September 21, 2022, 08:05:27 PM »

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« Reply #24962 on: September 21, 2022, 08:42:12 PM »



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiKXcHyGMM8



The US Court Of Appeals for the 11th District just overturned the decision by Kiid Himmler's heroine, Judge Cannon on behalf of CreamSickle Jeezus. 



https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-criminal-investigations-government-and-politics-fe24760ff9a350ea7aecd1a13c8eef16

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« Reply #24963 on: September 21, 2022, 10:48:47 PM »



That is the massage that Chamaco craves.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24964 on: September 22, 2022, 12:54:17 AM »

Judge Cannon, Senate confirmation hearings

 
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Cannon%20Responses%20to%20QFRs1.pdf

Approved by TWELVE Democrats.

She is a Federalist hack...
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« Reply #24965 on: September 22, 2022, 01:23:56 AM »

She is a poster child for the literacy crisis in this country, as are most members of the GOP.

It is god that important decisions are being swiftly taken out of her hands and adjudicated by at least somewhat responsible adults.

The thing that gives me hope for the Wiz pick conveying is Monte Morris. Their rookie is going to be terrible.
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« Reply #24966 on: September 22, 2022, 02:45:26 PM »

* Celtics coach Ime Udoka facing suspension, and possibly considering quitting, over fallout from a consensual intimate affair with a fellow Celtic official. 

Huh.

* Celtics bringing Luka Samanic to camp.

Stretch 4 two-way who was tearing up the G League for Westcehster when plantar fasciatis and other foot/leg issues sidelined him.  Dropped and replaced by Feron Hunt as our second two-way player. 

* The Utah Jazz have agreed to trade veteran forward Bojan Bogdanovic to the Detroit Pistons in exchange for center Kelly Olynyk and 23-year-old point guard Saben Lee. 

Pistons have Isaiah Stewart, Marvin Bagley, Jalen Duren, Nerlens Noel at the 4 & 5 spots, and now have Bogdanovic to go with Alec Burks, Sadiq Bey, Kevin Knox in their wings rotation.  And of course, Cunningham and Ivey and Killian Hayes in the back court.  And leave us not forget Kemba Walker. 

Worth noting, Olnyk played for Ainge in Boston, and he offloaded him to Miami to make salary cap room for Kyrie.  He has 12 million guaranteed for 2022-23 and 2023-24. 

Pistons have a fair number of team options and expiring deals going into next summer, including, Burks, Noel, Walker, Hamidou Diallo, Corey Joseph, potentially totalling like $40 million coming off the books.  Nice re-build afoot.  Doubt if their #1 will convey in 2023, but they are moving on up the food chain, with a nice core of youth and a good coach. 
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« Reply #24967 on: September 22, 2022, 07:02:11 PM »

How perfect would it be if Judge tied Maris tonight against the Red Sox.



Roger did it against the Red Sox, did he not.  Tracy Stallard as I recall. 

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« Reply #24968 on: September 23, 2022, 12:58:12 PM »

After coming to the Knicks via trade in 2003-2004, Marbury immediately made an impact. He played 46 games that season and scored more than 30 points seven times, including 42 against the LA Clippers. Despite the team's 39-43 record, he led the Knicks to the playoffs as a No. 7 seed. The then New Jersey Nets wiped out the Knicks in four games.

But hey, no problem. The team would have Marbury, their star, for a full season, and that would surely make a difference. He was still in that fan/media honeymoon phase.

That would soon end. In the 2004-2005 season --- his first full one in the Garden --- stories began appearing about Marbury's moodiness, abrasiveness, and reputation for being selfish.

His problems with teammates continued. Kurt Thomas didn't hide his dislike for Marbury. They argued on the bench during a game and then had a fistfight in the locker room. The team went through two more coaches that season, firing Lenny Wilkins after he started the season 17-22 and handing the wreck of a team to poor Herb Williams (16-27). It's kind of surprising that the Knicks won 33 games that season, given all the mess.

In need of a new coach, the Knicks got Knicksy and hired Larry Brown because they needed yet another person on the bench who had a bad relationship with Marbury.

The two didn't get along when during their time on the disappointing 2004 Summer Olympic squad. Marbury criticized Brown's coaching style, and Brown reportedly wanted Marbury off the team.

Obviously, that made Brown the perfect candidate for the job -- he said sarcastically.

The friction carried into the 2005-06 regular season, with Brown publicly criticizing Marbury and the two not talking. Marbury's uneven performance and sullen mood quickly soured Knicks fans who started booing the star player.

And now the circumstances burst into full view. Here's an example of what was a friendly conversation between the two:

Brown: "So, you're the best guard in the league, and the team is 17-45, yeah, it's the coach's fault."

Marbury: "I think it's personal now."

So the Knicks went 23-59, and Brown lasted one season. And guess what? The Knicks held on to Marbury.

What happened next? Insanity (not Linsanity. That was the fun one). Thomas took over as coach, with owner James Dolan mandating he fix the team or else.

Or else won.

The next two seasons were soap opera at its best. Marbury and Thomas feuded (how surprising!). At the start of the 2007-08 season, in November, Marbury went AWOL after learning he would lose his starting job to a young player, Mardy Collins. Marbury had elective surgery on his ankle in January 2008 and continued his spats with Thomas, reportedly becoming angered at any perceived slight. The fans booed, the media hissed, and finally, mercifully, the Knicks bought out and waived Marbury on February 24, 2009.

So that was a long-winded preamble. What does it all mean?

Circumstance.

It's not fair to compare Randle's personality to Marbury's. Randle has not fought teammates (as far as we know), hasn't outwardly feuded with his veteran coach (as far as we know), and hasn't lost the respect of his teammates (as far as we know).

But look at the other circumstances.

-The Knicks brought in Marbury and his bloated contract because they needed (wanted) a star. Fans and the media cheered. The Knicks brought in Randle not thinking he'd be a star but on the face of one career year, signed him a massive contract. Fans and the media cheered.

-Marbury was a bad fit on a bad team, with too many shoot-first guards. Randle is a bad fit on a mediocre team because he clogs the lane with Mitch and RJ.

-The Garden crowd booed Marbury often, and it affected his play and attitude. We've all seen what's happened with Randle, his body language, and the dejected way he sometimes leaves the court.

Here's where the circumstances can diverge.

The Knicks waited too long to move on from Marbury and then couldn't find a trade because of his onerous contract, deteriorating play, and bad attitude.

The Knicks, apparently, could trade Randle if they take pennies on the dollar and/or attach an appealing asset.

If the Knicks start losing, the fans will turn their ire on the team's highest-paid and most polarizing player. As soon as Randle does his signature move --- back in two steps, fake left, fake right, fade away and clank off the front rim --- the boos will start, followed by the Obi chants. This will make Tom Thibodeau's job harder, as he's supposedly already told confidants that he can't get Randle to play unselfishly.

A player with questions about his attitude, the ability to play within the team, booing fans, bad body language, and a young player behind him? We have the mix of circumstances just as we did last decade.

We see what happened when the Knicks refused to move then.
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« Reply #24969 on: September 23, 2022, 02:12:22 PM »

The Knicks, apparently, could trade Randle if they take pennies on the dollar and/or attach an appealing asset.



heh

no doubt

roll the Toppin dice.....
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« Reply #24970 on: September 23, 2022, 02:13:21 PM »

BIG THREE 2024

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« Reply #24971 on: September 23, 2022, 02:17:36 PM »

A player with questions about his attitude, the ability to play within the team, booing fans, bad body language, and a young player behind him? We have the mix of circumstances just as we did last decade.

We see what happened when the Knicks refused to move then.



Randle has won here

Marbury - not so much
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« Reply #24972 on: September 23, 2022, 02:21:58 PM »

"...Thibs has already told confidants."

[Marc Berman?  January 30, 2022?] 

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« Reply #24973 on: September 23, 2022, 03:21:59 PM »

YIKES

Think we've only scratched the surface on the Ime Udoka narrative.  Pretty crappy way to head into training camp...

Meanwhile, not enough that Gallinari just had ACL surgery, now Robert Williams is out 8-12 weeks with a surgical procedure on his left knee.  Odd that this was not dealth with this past spring.  Guess they figured it would work itself out with rest. 

PS: Matt Barnes says that after finding out the details regarding the situation involving Ime Udoka in Boston that it is deep, it is messy and it is 100 times uglier than any of us thought.  DAMN. 

PPS: Conjecture coming out of Boston is that having just finished giving Donald Trump a reach around, Aileen Cannon went down on Udoka, citing legal precendets for serving powerful men.   
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« Reply #24974 on: September 23, 2022, 03:32:31 PM »

Shaming someone's mom and someone's wife, Chip.  Sad.
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