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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9135 on: December 06, 2019, 12:48:38 PM »

Quote from: Merciless link=topic=11.msg108958#msg108958
What part about how he wanted out doesn't everyone understand?

What part of he didn't go into that meeting demanding a trade and you didn't have to trade him that second regardless do you not understand?


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« Reply #9136 on: December 06, 2019, 12:55:57 PM »

Quote from: Merciless link=topic=11.msg108958#msg108958
What part about how he wanted out doesn't everyone understand?

What part of he didn't go into that meeting demanding a trade and you didn't have to trade him that second regardless do you not understand?


*** In any case, one smart m'fer....

I understand not demanding a trade and still wanting out are the same thing. PJ fucked the relationship with KP, KP's brother had some fucked up demands, the guy was injured, tons of shit happened along the way and its relatively clear to me that KP wanted to move on.

All things considered we got 2 first rounders, DSjr (yes we know how you feel) and got rid of Lee and Hardaway's contracts. Mills was the genius behind giving Hardaway $70M+ in teh first place. Schmuck! (Mills not you). Also, the longer we waited I'm pretty sure the less we would have been offered considering the injury. If he had stayed on, I'm pretty sure, given our luck, he would've stepped in a hole at the garden and been out another year. 

All in all what I'm coming around to is we are young, we are going to get our teeth kicked in every night and we'll continue to build from here.

What insults me is Mills & Perry stating this team as part of their Plan B was supposed to be competitive.
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We would be more competitive under a decent coach
« Reply #9137 on: December 06, 2019, 01:46:57 PM »


What insults me is Mills & Perry stating this team as part of their Plan B was supposed to be competitive.

Well... to be fair it is mostly Fizdale's fault that we aren't in the hunt for the 8th seed.

Check out this quote from Monte Morris to Rebecca Harlow after the game:

THE SCOUTING REPORT ON THE KICKS IS TO HAVE SHOOTERS READY BECAUSE THEY ONLY GUARD THE PAINT

That's the coach coming up with a machiavellian strategy to get shit-canned so he can go coach the somewhere else. 
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« Reply #9138 on: December 06, 2019, 01:57:45 PM »

Yeah, Zinger can defend inside and shoot 3's.
Might work.

I still can't believe how everyone just shrugged when we traded KZ for crapola.  Or that he's gone.

What part about how he wanted out doesn't everyone understand?

The why.
Help me out with the why.
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« Reply #9139 on: December 06, 2019, 02:07:21 PM »

Sorry, thought I typed 2nd rounder, not sure why I wrote 1st rounder.
I had it right a few days ago.


Phil was out and we had a new coach.
Pretty much a clean slate.
And we were set to tank to add a Top 5 pick.
It should have been KZ's team.

I said early on when KZ's brother seemed a hassle that you give him a comfy job as one of our Euro scouts with a nice salary.  So he feels part of the team, but is out of the way.  Gets to hang close to home with a good salary, so he doesn't have to mooch off his bro (as agent/handout-taker).

All-star level young guys nearing the end of their rook contract never sour on their team and demand a trade.  (or has it happened before?).
So what happened?  What went wrong?


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« Reply #9140 on: December 06, 2019, 03:05:41 PM »


It should have been KZ's team.


So what happened?  What went wrong?

KP over played his hand.

He was demanding a lot after delivering little and then bluffed that he would go back to Europe (killing any trade value) so the Knicks had no option.  It should have been KPs team but he big-timed his way off the team.


If his goal was to remain a Knick forever he over played his hand.  Backed the team into a corner.  WHAT WAS KPs END GAME DOING THAT? 

You need to ask the right questions. Don't just assume Knicks dysfunction chased KP away.
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« Reply #9141 on: December 06, 2019, 03:17:57 PM »

Quote from: Merciless link=topic=11.msg108958#msg108958
What part about how he wanted out doesn't everyone understand?

What part of he didn't go into that meeting demanding a trade and you didn't have to trade him that second regardless do you not understand?


*** In any case, one smart m'fer....

I understand not demanding a trade and still wanting out are the same thing. PJ fucked the relationship with KP, KP's brother had some fucked up demands, the guy was injured, tons of shit happened along the way and its relatively clear to me that KP wanted to move on.

All things considered we got 2 first rounders, DSjr (yes we know how you feel) and got rid of Lee and Hardaway's contracts. Mills was the genius behind giving Hardaway $70M+ in teh first place. Schmuck! (Mills not you). Also, the longer we waited I'm pretty sure the less we would have been offered considering the injury. If he had stayed on, I'm pretty sure, given our luck, he would've stepped in a hole at the garden and been out another year. 

All in all what I'm coming around to is we are young, we are going to get our teeth kicked in every night and we'll continue to build from here.

What insults me is Mills & Perry stating this team as part of their Plan B was supposed to be competitive.

It WAS.
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« Reply #9142 on: December 06, 2019, 03:21:59 PM »

I am sure Perry envisioned Gibson as a starter.  And Payton as well.  The team assembled is not the team we now see on the floor.  It could be.  I see no reason why Mitch should be getting more than 18-20 minutes and no reason once Payton has his legs that Frank should be starting.

Time will tell.
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« Reply #9143 on: December 06, 2019, 03:59:22 PM »

Keith Smart also fired
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« Reply #9144 on: December 06, 2019, 04:00:14 PM »

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Knicks fired coach David Fizdale, league source tells ESPN.
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« Reply #9145 on: December 06, 2019, 04:04:37 PM »

God damn I was close... said it would happen when they were 15 games under .500

I will be forever haunted missing it by 1 loss...
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« Reply #9146 on: December 06, 2019, 04:09:59 PM »

No where to run or hide now for those Sack of Shit Brothers, Mills and Perry.....gutless fuckers just pulled out the last card they could play.
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« Reply #9147 on: December 06, 2019, 04:15:54 PM »

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Knicks assistants Mike Miller and Pat Sullivan are candidates to become interim head coach, league sources tell
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« Reply #9148 on: December 06, 2019, 04:22:04 PM »

God damn I was close... said it would happen when they were 15 games under .500

I will be forever haunted missing it by 1 loss...

You called it. 
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« Reply #9149 on: December 06, 2019, 04:29:11 PM »

And I think we are far enough in the hole that even if we figure things out, play better, win some, and raise players’ value, we’ll still get a pretty good pick.

I’m rooting for an offense and defense our players understand well enough to execute.
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