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ALDS - Rays vs. Astros (See Predictions for Twins vs. Yankees.)

Tampa Bay in 5
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Houston in 3
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Voting closed: October 04, 2019, 11:37:25 PM


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luee

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Re: American League
« Reply #735 on: October 11, 2018, 06:48:11 PM »

Yankees need starting pitchers badly. Probably worst staff of the contenders. No ace, Happ is probably a two. Severino bombed out in the second half.

Tanaka is the ace

12-6 with a 3.75 is not an ace. 14 pitchers with more wins including two twenty game winners in the A.L.. Tanaka is going on thirty and always injured lately.
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Re: American League
« Reply #736 on: October 11, 2018, 06:53:19 PM »

As a Sox pither, vs Stros it is really not close. Price has been better in his 3 years than Sale in his 2.
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« Reply #737 on: October 11, 2018, 07:09:56 PM »

18 ER in 32 innings overall since 2016.

Just 3 starts for Red Sox ns HOU (13 ER over 15+)

Shall we look at Price's recent work?59

Look at whatever you want, Kiid. I am certain you can find a rationalization that will fit your argument.

59 innings pitched as a starter in the post-season. 41 runs given up. 6.25 era. 0-9 record. 0-10 for his teams.
15.1 inninges pitched as a reliever in the post-season. 4 runs given up. 2.35 era. 2-0, with a save and a hold. 5-3 for his teams.

I don't want him starting in the post-season. I expressed that concern when we signed him. I have seen no reason to think anything has changed, especially with a cool pair of nights coming up. His ERA in April is generally the highest of the year, excepting starts in October in cooler weather.

This Sunday will be somewhere around 15 degrees cooler than his relief appearances last October.

Tingly fingers?
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Re: American League
« Reply #738 on: October 11, 2018, 10:36:23 PM »

Ga'head - bet that ranch on HOU

I am not touching any bet vs a prideful Price this series.
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« Reply #739 on: October 11, 2018, 11:18:44 PM »

Ga'head - bet that ranch on HOU

I am not touching any bet vs a prideful Price this series.

Yeah!!!!

He will be so much more prideful for this outing than he was for Game Two against the Yankees or Game Two against Cleveland or Game Two in the ALCS against KC.

Next, you could try, "He's due!" It is another of those arguments that gets trotted out as if there were substance to it.
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« Reply #740 on: October 12, 2018, 03:56:19 PM »

Nor do his regular season starts against a team give us any reason for confidence in his post-season starts:

2010  and 2011 vs. Texas saw 2 runs/6 innings in a single regular season game each year. The post-seasons were 7 runs in 12.2 innings and 3 runs in 6.2 innings, his second best post-season start! But the 4.05 ERA for that game was still higher than any regular season ERA after 2009 and higher than any regular season against any of those teams he faced in the post-season until this year's Yankees.

2013, three regular season starts against the Red Sox. He faced them three times at Fenway, giving up 3 runs in 22.1 innings. Faced them twice in Tampa, with 6 runs in 10 innings.

In the post-season, he gave up 7 runs in 7 innings.

2014 is sort of the exception. He gave up 3 runs in 5 innings during the year, while surrendering only 2 runs in 8 innings. Just good enough to lose the game, but better than his regular season pitching.

2015 saw a return to form. Against Texas he gave up 5 runs in 7  innings in the ALDS vs. 2 runs in  6 innings during the season. Against KC in the ALCS, he surrendered 8 runs in 13.1 innings, vs. 1 run in 9 innings during the season

2016, more of the same. 5 runs in 3.1 innings in the ALDS. 2 runs in 6 innings in the regular season.


So, here we are in 2018. His ERA against the Uankees in the regular season was 10.34, a staggeringly high number over four starts!

Yet, his post-season start against them was, again, higher than his regular season ERA!

16.20 was the ERA for the game last week.

I would love to be wrong, Kiid, but neither his regular season performances against Houston nor his pride give anybody with the ability to read or calculate a reason to believe this start with somehow be good, let alone good enough to win.

If he comes out and pitches a game like he did against Baltimore in 2014, I will gladly eat my words. Perhaps we will see a Johnson-esque turnaround in his post-season proclivities. But I'm from Missouri.
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Re: American League
« Reply #741 on: October 12, 2018, 11:10:07 PM »

We're playing Houston.

Very good numbers for Price vs Astros in a Sox uni.

Enjoy.
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« Reply #742 on: October 13, 2018, 01:02:15 AM »

We're playing Houston.

Very good numbers for Price vs Astros in a Sox uni.

Enjoy.

His regular season starts are demonstrably meaningless in post-season starts.

You can just keep whistling in the dark about his pride. Willing to bet on him, rather than merely not against him?
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Re: American League
« Reply #743 on: October 13, 2018, 09:42:19 AM »

I'm pretty sure that Winston Churchill said, "I cannot forecast to you the action of David, he is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma." after watching him pitch in the post-season.

Go Sox.
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Re: American League
« Reply #744 on: October 13, 2018, 01:39:23 PM »

16.2

ER 27 outs

Very good.

Damn.  No idea how Price even shows for the next game.

Heh.
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Re: American League
« Reply #745 on: October 13, 2018, 02:45:40 PM »

So....Josh likes the Sox tonight.  Forget it, Verlander.
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Re: American League
« Reply #746 on: October 13, 2018, 03:32:06 PM »

Price has to find a remedy for Yankee RH sluggers no doubt.

But worth reminding you....

A)  the walk to Gardner was bullshit
B)  McCutcheon then hit a fly ball to left
C)  the hook was quick.
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Re: American League
« Reply #747 on: October 13, 2018, 05:03:35 PM »

Price can forget about the Yankees until next year.

That yacht has sunk.

His focus has to be on what is an equally tough line-up with more disciplined hiiters.

Shit.

He may want to think about the Yankees.
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Re: American League
« Reply #748 on: October 13, 2018, 05:25:49 PM »

16.2

ER 27 outs

Very good.

Damn.  No idea how Price even shows for the next game.

Heh.

WTF are you babbling about?

a 16.2 ERA no matter how you calculate it, sucks.
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Re: American League
« Reply #749 on: October 13, 2018, 05:48:40 PM »

(Yanks) can forget about (Price) til next year



FIXED.
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