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josh

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Re: Major League Baseball
« Reply #1365 on: January 03, 2019, 06:59:05 PM »

Boston Red Sox Writer: The guy who is number one in post-season pitching for games, WHIP, ERA, and Saves, with the MOST INNINGS PITCHED, is NOT a HOFer.

https://www.telegram.com/news/20181222/bill-ballou-mariano-rivera-not-getting-this-writers-hall-of-fame-vote

And again, writers should not be voting for the HALL.
Particularly, the obvious home team supporters among them.

Ballou is not really a Red Sox writer - he writes for Worcester!

But here is where he illustrates that he is full of shit:
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My thought on the Hall of Fame is that it is more than numbers, that its members must have the kind of presence that would make somebody buy a ticket not hometown fans, but general baseball fans just to say they saw him play.

Rivera fits that description. He is a larger-than-life performer whose character is impeccable. He has had a long career, albeit in a role I do not value, a role I equate with a PAT kicker in football or a shootout guy in hockey.

If that's Ballou's view of the Hall of Fame and he thinks Rivera fits, then his decision to [inot[/i] vote for Rivera has nothing to do with whether Rivera belongs and everything to do with Ballou's wanting something to write about and a way to distinguish himself.

Ballou belongs in the Hall of Petulance.
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« Reply #1366 on: January 03, 2019, 07:43:58 PM »

Ballou's argument is that the closer's role has been overblown and is very limited.

He may be right in that regard, and probably accounts for that only six (I think) relievers have been elected to the HoF.

I'd vote for Rivera. Some guys deserve the Hall and Rivera is one of them.
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« Reply #1367 on: January 03, 2019, 07:45:40 PM »

Robertson inks two year deal with Philadelphia.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/phillies-reportedly-sign-reliever-david-robertson-two-year-23-million-deal-184125107.html

Keeping an eye on Robertson vs Familia.  We chose.  Have to live with Jeurys.  Though he sure did look comfy as a 7th 8th inning guy.
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Re: Major League Baseball
« Reply #1368 on: January 03, 2019, 07:47:04 PM »

Meanhile rumors build that Manny and Sox are serious.


Sox are white.

and Phillies considering Harper to go with Robertson.
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« Reply #1369 on: January 03, 2019, 08:29:05 PM »

If I were a degenerate gambler like Kiid, I'd bet on Harper winding up back with the Nationals.
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« Reply #1370 on: January 03, 2019, 08:58:44 PM »

Ballou's argument is that the closer's role has been overblown and is very limited.

He may be right in that regard, and probably accounts for that only six (I think) relievers have been elected to the HoF.

I'd vote for Rivera. Some guys deserve the Hall and Rivera is one of them.

That was the argument he presented, Banks, but it is not what he stated the Hall was about.

Using his own stated standard, he is just a dick.

Not to mention that it is not as if Mariano is the first one in, either.
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« Reply #1371 on: January 03, 2019, 09:09:53 PM »

Ballou's argument is that the closer's role has been overblown and is very limited.

He may be right in that regard, and probably accounts for that only six (I think) relievers have been elected to the HoF.

I'd vote for Rivera. Some guys deserve the Hall and Rivera is one of them.

That was the argument he presented, Banks, but it is not what he stated the Hall was about.

Using his own stated standard, he is just a dick.

Not to mention that it is not as if Mariano is the first one in, either.


Ballou's premise was ok, and worth discussing but his arguments were all over the place.

Single A rhetoric

Presumably he has not voted (or abstained) for closers for HoF in the past.

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Re: Major League Baseball
« Reply #1372 on: January 04, 2019, 09:14:49 AM »

Balou showed he knows very little about the game of baseball, but very much what it means to be a fan of one team.
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« Reply #1373 on: January 04, 2019, 10:34:05 AM »

Ballou was a huge Sharks fan and had his heart broken when they bolted Worcester for Cali.

Little known Ballou fact-his grand-father, Emile "The Cat" Ballou was the legendary goalie for the the old AHL team the Philly Rockets.

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« Reply #1374 on: January 04, 2019, 01:30:21 PM »

Meanhile rumors build that Manny and Sox are serious.


Sox are white.

and Phillies considering Harper to go with Robertson.

Nats reportedly  in for north of 300 mil already with Bryce.

My 9-282 is a bit short.  What are Phil's going - 12/400?

Heh.
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Re: Major League Baseball
« Reply #1375 on: January 04, 2019, 04:51:01 PM »

Nats could have floated that number to hurt rivals' offers. Wait and see.
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kiiidcarter8

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« Reply #1376 on: January 05, 2019, 12:25:38 PM »

Wait and see refers to everything...
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« Reply #1377 on: January 05, 2019, 05:55:37 PM »

Boras has a history of planting stories, too.
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« Reply #1378 on: January 05, 2019, 10:23:47 PM »

Yankees bringing back Britton.
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« Reply #1379 on: January 06, 2019, 08:11:05 PM »

Story is Britton's deal makes it obvious that Robertson should not have been his own agent.

I don't know....
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