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[Administrator]

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[bambu-wisdom]

In case anyone is wondering why the drug trade is never-ending;

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/aspiring-teacher-will-do-drugs-again-despite-overdosing-and-nearly-dying-at-a-music-festival/news-story/fd95485ebaf2eabc062485709b069a26

Aspiring teacher will do drugs again despite overdosing and nearly dying at a music festival

After overdosing on five ecstasy tablets at a music festival, Tony Tieu is only alive today thanks to a team of medical specialists and six days of expensive treatment in intensive care costing taxpayers at least $30,000.

But far from being deterred by the high price of his brush with death, Mr Tieu plans to take drugs again at the next festival he attends — just not so much.

[bambu-wisdom]

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/mexican-oxy-pills-in-us-southwest-lift-fentanyl-death-toll/ar-BBTBzA8?OCID=AVRES000

'Mexican oxy' pills in US Southwest lift fentanyl death toll.

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Yes, not everyone in the world...including Mexico, Central America, and South America is a lovely person.
That's why the US-Mexico border must be sealed, tight, 'airtight', 'watertight'...so no one can just waltz into America over it...not 'asylum-seekers', not 'illegal immigrants', not 'economic immigrants', not 'scumbag drug dealers', not 'drug cartel bosses', not 'terrorists', etc etc etc.

[Anniebarlett]

No one should take drugs, it's very harmful.

[arafura]

No one should take drugs, it's very harmful.

It sure is.
Just because marijuana has been legalised doesn't mean it's free from the effects it has.

https://www.livescience.com/24558-marijuana-effects.html
 

[barton]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/11/us/moana-marijuana-cake-mistake-trnd/index.html

[barton]

In setting prices, drug makers rarely acknowledge the considerable federal funding and research that has helped develop their products; they have not offered taxpayer-investors financial payback.

The Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, a federal agency known as Barda, is giving Moderna up to $483 million for late-stage development of its vaccine.

How a Covid-19 Vaccine Could Cost Americans Dearly

The United States is the only developed nation unable to balance cost, efficacy and social good in setting prices.
Elisabeth Rosenthal

By Elisabeth Rosenthal

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/opinion/coronavirus-vaccine-cost.html?action=click&auth=login-email&login=email&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

[FlyingVProd]

Here is an example of how horrible drugs are, and about how drugs steal people's souls.

When I was attending acting school in Pasadena, I was poor, and I had to live in a cheap motel on Colorado Blvd because it was all that I could afford, the Astro Motel, and it was horrible. 4 people died during the 3 months that I was there, suicides and drug over-doses. It was the kind of place where people went to commit suicide. I would be drinking coffee in the morning talking with a hooker watching the coroner carry out a dead body that the maid had found when she was doing her rounds. It was a bad place.

The worst thing that I saw, was a family living there, a husband and a wife and 2 kids. One day the husband took the kids and left so that a Black drug dealer could have sex with his wife so that they could get drugs. He let the drug dealer have sex with his wife in order to get drugs, it was horrible.

I have seen a lot of fucked up things, and drugs are a tool of the devil.

Life can be hard enough, but drugs make life way worse, and people give up their souls for drugs.

Some fellow students from acting school invited me to be their roommate, so I was able to move out of the motel and live in a nice apartment for the remainder of my training there, but I saw some horrible things at the cheap motel, and I saw the hell that happens when people get addicted to drugs.

Salute,

Tony V.

[FlyingVProd]

There is a very important suicide scene in my movie "Echo, A Rock and Roll Tragedy" and I want to shoot that scene at the motel where I lived in Pasadena while I attended acting school, the Astro Motel on Colorado Blvd. It is still there and it would be a great location to shoot at.

Salute,

Tony V.

[Kam]

Alcohol is a drug.

[Oilcandide]

Same with the war on drugs.
You're just funneling money to your enemies by criminalizing drugs.

The Taliban took in nearly $500B last year via opium sales (they tax every stage).  US consumers finance violent Mexican drug gangs. 

Legalize and tax drugs.  Cut out the violent criminal middlemen.
Stop wasting money on policing and prisons, and use the tax money you pull in on education and addiction health care.

Good idea.   Should post that in Drug thread,  which has no posts since September.   Get a whole chat going,  without crosstalk.   I'd legalize pot and maybe peyote and other psychoactives.   Heroin,  meth,  coke,  I'd decriminalize use but still penalize producers.   Hard drugs really shouldn't become a legitimized industry.   

[barton]

If the chat has moved here, I'll just say that governments can produce safe, unadulterated heroin and provide it to addicts.  This approach (when done nonjudgmentally) has worked various places and has led to better outcomes in steering them to treatment and transitioning away from dependency.   Black market producers should still be prosecuted, but the best way to end their business is for government to provide the drug at a price that beats street.

[facilitatorn]

Someone in my neighborhood grew their mortgage, not in what they made ($0) but in what they would have spent, in 5 terracotta pots. Their only concern were los federales, because the State, City, and County do not see harm in medicinal, recreational, spiritual, or sexual use of ganja.

Oakland and Oregon are also opening the door to a door opener in the form of  Psilocybin mushrooms. We’ll see how that goes.

[facilitatorn]

As Oregon tries to be Portugal, as a California resident I should really turn my eye to Spain.

[facilitatorn]

http://youtu.be/wVkk6fH2u0Y

Winning!

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