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Voting closed: October 22, 2020, 02:04:36 PM

[Hairy Lime]

NFL playoff QB win percentage


Starr    9-1
Plunkett      8-2


Brady     34-11
Bradshaw  14-5
Montana    16-7

I am sure I missed a couple

You missed at least three things, Kid.

1) You missed the percentages that you claimed you were posting!

2) Sid Luckman and Trent Dilfer were both 5-1 in the playoffs. Unitas, Theisman, and Mahomes are all 6-2.

3) The thing about all those Playoff records is that they misrepresent the stats.

Starr    9-9
Plunkett      8-9


Brady     34-12
Bradshaw  14-9
Montana    16-8

Giving QBs a pass for not even making it to the playoffs makes no sense. Ooh! Montana went 4 - 0 in SBs!

Yeah, because he lost before he got to the others. No credit for failing to make the playoffs.

Hence, Otto Gdaham's greatness in never failing to make a championship game.

[kiidcarter8]

NFL playoff QB win percentage


Starr    9-1
Plunkett      8-2


Brady     34-11
Bradshaw  14-5
Montana    16-7

I am sure I missed a couple

You missed at least three things, Kid.

1) You missed the percentages that you claimed you were posting!

2) Sid Luckman and Trent Dilfer were both 5-1 in the playoffs. Unitas, Theisman, and Mahomes are all 6-2.

3) The thing about all those Playoff records is that they misrepresent the stats.

Starr    9-9
Plunkett      8-9


Brady     34-12
Bradshaw  14-9
Montana    16-8

Giving QBs a pass for not even making it to the playoffs makes no sense. Ooh! Montana went 4 - 0 in SBs!

Yeah, because he lost before he got to the others. No credit for failing to make the playoffs.

I said minimum 10 games

[josh]

NFL playoff QB win percentage


Starr    9-1
Plunkett      8-2


Brady     34-11
Bradshaw  14-5
Montana    16-7

I am sure I missed a couple

You missed at least three things, Kid.

1) You missed the percentages that you claimed you were posting!

2) Sid Luckman and Trent Dilfer were both 5-1 in the playoffs. Unitas, Theisman, and Mahomes are all 6-2.

3) The thing about all those Playoff records is that they misrepresent the stats.

Starr    9-9
Plunkett      8-9


Brady     34-12
Bradshaw  14-9
Montana    16-8

Giving QBs a pass for not even making it to the playoffs makes no sense. Ooh! Montana went 4 - 0 in SBs!

Yeah, because he lost before he got to the others. No credit for failing to make the playoffs.

I said minimum 10 games

"NFL playoff QB win percentage


Starr    9-1
Plunkett      8-2


Brady     34-11
Bradshaw  14-5
Montana    16-7

I am sure I missed a couple"

Just like you posted the percentages.

Got it.

[kidcarter8]

I think Starr is unfairly criticized here as merely a "game manager".  When he had to throw he was accurate, including the long throw (Throw The Long Bomb the title of one of his bios)

Rodgers is the best of all time.

[josh]

I think Starr is unfairly criticized here as merely a "game manager".  When he had to throw he was accurate, including the long throw (Throw The Long Bomb the title of one of his bios)

Rodgers is the best of all time.

If only he could get into the playoffs more and do better in them.

He couldn't and he didn't.

He had the potential to be the best of all time and failed to realize it.

[bankshot1]

I think Starr is unfairly criticized here as merely a "game manager".  When he had to throw he was accurate, including the long throw (Throw The Long Bomb the title of one of his bios)

Rodgers is the best of all time.

Kid's got a boner for Packer QBs.

For most of his career, Starr had two all-timers, Hornung and Taylor in his backfield, running behind a storied O-line, and threw on average about 125 yards per game.

And as noted he was not included among the 10 NFL QBs in the NFL 100 All-time team as determined by a panel of experts.

During his hey day, Starr was a star, but Unitas was considered the best passer and best QB in the NFL.

Rodgers is a great passer, can make throws few can, but he is not the best QB of all time. I do not think he's seriously in that conversation as his record in big games is mediocre.

[kidcarter8]

Record in big games cannot be attributed totally to a quarterback

I stand by Rodgers over Brady.  Tom is of course a superstar.

As for your Bart Starr comments, you're a fucking idiot.  And yes, I know how good the Packers teams in that 6-7 year run were.

[bankshot1]

Record in big games cannot be attributed totally to a quarterback

I stand by Rodgers over Brady.  Tom is of course a superstar.

As for your Bart Starr comments, you're a fucking idiot.  And yes, I know how good the Packers teams in that 6-7 year run were.

In Green Bay Lombardi won titles with an all-pro packed defense and HoFers Taylor and Horning running behind a great O-line. Starr managed it for Lombardi.


You can stand wherever you like with Rodgers, he's a very good QB, but he's not in Brady's class as a leader or winner. And never will be.

As I said before, ill-informed people often confuse passing stats and how well a QB leads a team.

Thank you for illustrating my point.

[kidcarter8]

Which of Brady's title teams would Rodgers have lost with?

[bankshot1]

Which of Brady's title teams would Rodgers have lost with?

LMAO

Tough question as Rodgers would have been sitting on the bench watching the GOAT play.

kid you are an idiot.

Rodgers couldn't get his team to more than 1 SB, Brady got his to 10.

TFF

[kidcarter8]

Which of Brady's title teams would Rodgers have lost with?

LMAO

Tough question as Rodgers would have been sitting on the bench watching the GOAT play.

kid you are an idiot.

Rodgers couldn't get his team to more than 1 SB, Brady got his to 10.

TFF

The answer is QUITE LIKELY ZERO

[bankshot1]

Which of Brady's title teams would Rodgers have lost with?

LMAO

Tough question as Rodgers would have been sitting on the bench watching the GOAT play.

kid you are an idiot.

Rodgers couldn't get his team to more than 1 SB, Brady got his to 10.

TFF

The answer is QUITE LIKELY ZERO

LMAO

Lets take a look at 2020 and Brady's and Tampa's win over the defending champions, the KC Chiefs in the Superbowl.

To get to play the Chiefs,  Tampa had to play and defeat Washington on the road, then Drew Brees  and the Saints in New Orleans, and then

WAIT for it

Aaron Rodgers and the Packers in Green Bay.

Yup on a new team still learning to play together in a covid challenged year, Brady goes into Lambeau and beats Rodgers and the Packers

So in consecutive weeks Brady QBs wins on the road against Hof Bound Brees, Hof bound Rodgers, and likely HoF bound Mahomes.

Rodgers couldn't defend the sacred turf of Lambeau, the home of Starr and Favre, and you just assign him SB wins.

Kid you are a fucking moron.

And cemented for all time Elba's Village Idiot award in perpetuity.

Congratulations.

You earned it. 


As an aside, I'm not going to do this for all Brady's SBs, but I do not think there is any other QB living or dead, who could have engineered a comeback like Brady did down 28-3 to the Falcons in SB 51.

[Hamilton Samuels]

I do not think there is any other QB living or dead, who could have engineered a comeback like Brady did down 28-3 to the Falcons

So...you never saw Roger (inventor if the 2 minute drill) Staubach play?

And he had to do it against defenses which could 1) play bump and run
2) crush receivers going across the middle
3) And were allowed to truly hit the qb.

So did Montana.

But I guess you missed out on those guys.

Hell, against Atlanta's D, Bucky Always would've won that game.

Maybe even The Polish Rifle!

More than a few if those rings of TBs we're earned by opposing coaches.

[bankshot1]

Don't be too upset Hammy you finished a close second to kid.

My NFL days go back to the late 50s.

And I'm familiar with the work of Roger going back to his Navy days and as dad was a Navy man I became a big fan of his in college and when he shipped out to Dallas.

But the thing is, Roger could run a 2 minute drill, but Tom had to run about a 25 minute drill from the middle of the 3rd qtr and into OT against the Falcons. It was a comeback so improbable as to be almost unthinkable

The deficit was so big and so daunting he had to be perfect, and he was, on the NFL's biggest stage against the best team  in the NFC.

That he capitalized on mistakes is a strength not a weakness.

Its called being opportunistic.

And fwiw throwing out names means nothing to me.

Make an argument and back it up with facts you inarticulate dolt.

Polish rifle?

The one with the instructions that reads, "point this end out"?

or the Iggles QB?

LMAO

[Hairy Lime]

Which of Brady's title teams would Rodgers have lost with?

LMAO

Tough question as Rodgers would have been sitting on the bench watching the GOAT play.

kid you are an idiot.

Rodgers couldn't get his team to more than 1 SB, Brady got his to 10.

TFF

The answer is QUITE LIKELY ZERO

So in your view In NONE of the five times Brady was MVP he was irreplaceable and necessary for the outcome?