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 on: Today at 01:58:02 PM 
Started by josh - Last post by jmmengel

Both parties scrapped the Commission, because the debate schedule had the debates after a significant number of voters had already voted. And Biden was always going to agree to debates, even if he were ahead in the polls.
For reasons that would be obvious if you had the wit to imagine what the reaction in the right wing media you get all your opinions from would be if he didn't.
Bill Maher represents  right wing media?
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And I like your tacit admission that Biben's people out maneuvered the Trump campaign in setting the debate rules. Though you might not understand what you are actually saying because as a Trump lover you cannot credit Biden with anything.
If Trump objected to the Biden rules he kept quiet.
What I feel about Biden is that his presidency has no credibility.
Seems a lot of voters across all demographic lines have similar feelings

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 on: Today at 01:32:34 PM 
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 on: Today at 01:32:17 PM 
Started by josh - Last post by bambu.
Sky News:

"Good riddance to a bad man".

#####

Indeed.

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 on: Today at 01:30:17 PM 
Started by josh - Last post by Hairy Lime
Bill Maher recognizes the Emperors clothing

T o me it says Biden knows he is losing because otherwise he would not have agreed to a debate. Only the loser wants to debate.
Trump wanted to debate too, and had been speaking about it for months. So what conclusion would you draw from that?
The challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.
So an incumbent agreeing to a debate knows he is losing? Like...
Joe Biden

If you want to change the subject, as you usually do, have at it.
But you suck at history and research.

2020 Trump, the incumbent, was the clear underdog in a pandemic year. Still, he picked up 7 million votes
from his 2016 Count.

Obama in 2012 was in a statistical tie with Romney, the challenger

Bush in 2004  was tied with Gore

Clinton in 1996 had a huge lead over Dole but it was a three way race with Perot.
No incumbent would leave the debate stage to two opponents

Bush in 1992 also three way.


Reagan in 1984 landslide in the polls and the voting but Reagan was fighting back from high inflation in his first term.
So to be clear: every incumbent since Ford has agreed to debates with their major party opponent. Every. One.
Every one.
What that has to do with my previous statement is known only to you.
the challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.
It has to do with this bit of ignorant foolishness you subscribed to: "Biden knows he is losing because otherwise he would not have agreed to a debate". Your typically dishonest attempt to lie about the point notwithstanding.
Well,he is losing in the polls.
He refused to discuss the debates for weeks.
He finally agreed after demanding the debate commission be scrapped, the elimination of a live audience, and the elimination of a third party candidate.  And he limited the debates to two, with just one when voting has started.
And he simply refuses to talk about calls for more debates.

I agree with Maher that despite being the incumbent Biden is acting as the challenger.
That conclusion is not an outlier in the media.
Both parties scrapped the Commission, because the debate schedule had the debates after a significant number of voters had already voted. And Biden was always going to agree to debates, even if he were ahead in the polls. For reasons that would be obvious if you had the wit to imagine what the reaction in the right wing media you get all your opinions from would be if he didn't.

And I like your tacit admission that Biben's people out maneuvered the Trump campaign in setting the debate rules. Though you might not understand what you are actually saying because as a Trump lover you cannot credit Biden with anything.

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 on: Today at 01:01:22 PM 
Started by josh - Last post by jmmengel
Bill Maher recognizes the Emperors clothing

T o me it says Biden knows he is losing because otherwise he would not have agreed to a debate. Only the loser wants to debate.
Trump wanted to debate too, and had been speaking about it for months. So what conclusion would you draw from that?
The challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.
So an incumbent agreeing to a debate knows he is losing? Like...
Joe Biden

If you want to change the subject, as you usually do, have at it.
But you suck at history and research.

2020 Trump, the incumbent, was the clear underdog in a pandemic year. Still, he picked up 7 million votes
from his 2016 Count.

Obama in 2012 was in a statistical tie with Romney, the challenger

Bush in 2004  was tied with Gore

Clinton in 1996 had a huge lead over Dole but it was a three way race with Perot.
No incumbent would leave the debate stage to two opponents

Bush in 1992 also three way.


Reagan in 1984 landslide in the polls and the voting but Reagan was fighting back from high inflation in his first term.
So to be clear: every incumbent since Ford has agreed to debates with their major party opponent. Every. One.
Every one.
What that has to do with my previous statement is known only to you.
the challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.
It has to do with this bit of ignorant foolishness you subscribed to: "Biden knows he is losing because otherwise he would not have agreed to a debate". Your typically dishonest attempt to lie about the point notwithstanding.
Well,he is losing in the polls.
He refused to discuss the debates for weeks.
He finally agreed after demanding the debate commission be scrapped, the elimination of a live audience, and the elimination of a third party candidate.  And he limited the debates to two, with just one when voting has started.
And he simply refuses to talk about calls for more debates.

I agree with Maher that despite being the incumbent Biden is acting as the challenger.
That conclusion is not an outlier in the media.

 7 
 on: Today at 12:44:42 PM 
Started by josh - Last post by Hairy Lime
Bill Maher recognizes the Emperors clothing

T o me it says Biden knows he is losing because otherwise he would not have agreed to a debate. Only the loser wants to debate.
Trump wanted to debate too, and had been speaking about it for months. So what conclusion would you draw from that?
The challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.
So an incumbent agreeing to a debate knows he is losing? Like...
Joe Biden

If you want to change the subject, as you usually do, have at it.
But you suck at history and research.

2020 Trump, the incumbent, was the clear underdog in a pandemic year. Still, he picked up 7 million votes
from his 2016 Count.

Obama in 2012 was in a statistical tie with Romney, the challenger

Bush in 2004  was tied with Gore

Clinton in 1996 had a huge lead over Dole but it was a three way race with Perot.
No incumbent would leave the debate stage to two opponents

Bush in 1992 also three way.


Reagan in 1984 landslide in the polls and the voting but Reagan was fighting back from high inflation in his first term.
So to be clear: every incumbent since Ford has agreed to debates with their major party opponent. Every. One.
Every one.
What that has to do with my previous statement is known only to you.
the challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.
It has to do with this bit of ignorant foolishness you subscribed to: "Biden knows he is losing because otherwise he would not have agreed to a debate". Your typically dishonest attempt to lie about the point notwithstanding.

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 on: Today at 12:39:00 PM 
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 on: Today at 12:32:10 PM 
Started by josh - Last post by jmmengel
Bill Maher recognizes the Emperors clothing

T o me it says Biden knows he is losing because otherwise he would not have agreed to a debate. Only the loser wants to debate.
Trump wanted to debate too, and had been speaking about it for months. So what conclusion would you draw from that?
The challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.
So an incumbent agreeing to a debate knows he is losing? Like...
Joe Biden

If you want to change the subject, as you usually do, have at it.
But you suck at history and research.

2020 Trump, the incumbent, was the clear underdog in a pandemic year. Still, he picked up 7 million votes
from his 2016 Count.

Obama in 2012 was in a statistical tie with Romney, the challenger

Bush in 2004  was tied with Gore

Clinton in 1996 had a huge lead over Dole but it was a three way race with Perot.
No incumbent would leave the debate stage to two opponents

Bush in 1992 also three way.


Reagan in 1984 landslide in the polls and the voting but Reagan was fighting back from high inflation in his first term.
So to be clear: every incumbent since Ford has agreed to debates with their major party opponent. Every. One.
Every one.
What that has to do with my previous statement is known only to you.
the challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.

 10 
 on: Today at 12:14:35 PM 
Started by josh - Last post by Hairy Lime
Bill Maher recognizes the Emperors clothing

T o me it says Biden knows he is losing because otherwise he would not have agreed to a debate. Only the loser wants to debate.
Trump wanted to debate too, and had been speaking about it for months. So what conclusion would you draw from that?
The challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.
So an incumbent agreeing to a debate knows he is losing? Like...
Joe Biden

If you want to change the subject, as you usually do, have at it.
But you suck at history and research.

2020 Trump, the incumbent, was the clear underdog in a pandemic year. Still, he picked up 7 million votes
from his 2016 Count.

Obama in 2012 was in a statistical tie with Romney, the challenger

Bush in 2004  was tied with Gore

Clinton in 1996 had a huge lead over Dole but it was a three way race with Perot.
No incumbent would leave the debate stage to two opponents

Bush in 1992 also three way.


Reagan in 1984 landslide in the polls and the voting but Reagan was fighting back from high inflation in his first term.
So to be clear: every incumbent since Ford has agreed to debates with their major party opponent. Every. One.

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