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Who will win Game 5 of the NBA Finals?

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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


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Re: Knicks
« Reply #1710 on: November 04, 2018, 04:07:36 PM »

Did I ever say a player picked after 3 was better than Tatum?

Kid you are conflating two issues.

1) you were pumping Lonzo harder than his old man or his girl friend as ROY and best player in draft

2) you were continually dumping on Tatum

these are separate issues.

And i've no idea if you posted or felt anyone picked after Tatum was better than Tatum, but given your continual misplaced criticisms of Tatum, it would not surprise me if you did.

and kid I comped Tatum's 9 games counting stats this year v last year, and

points 142-123  (15.8-13.7)
boards 69-59     (7.7-6.6)
assists 23-17      (2.6-1.9)
steals 5-6
blocks 4-8
TO 18-19

so wouldn't you agree its fairer to say his #s in general have increased apples to apples, with steals and blocks off?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #1712 on: November 04, 2018, 05:11:15 PM »

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« Reply #1713 on: November 04, 2018, 07:01:57 PM »

Most everyone on this forum has Enes booked on a garbage trawler headed for Jimmerland.

Meanwhile, without Kanter's 10 & 7, and we're behind by 20 instead of ten.

Be careful what you wish for. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #1714 on: November 04, 2018, 07:12:59 PM »

Datsun kept us in it. Nice 2Q.

I liked Zonja pushing the ball after rebounds.
Which led to a last second bucket for Dot.

not sure why a banged up hardaway was out there immobile.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #1715 on: November 04, 2018, 07:58:45 PM »

You trade Hardaway and you will be looking for a Hardaway.

Might not have to look too far  . . .
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« Reply #1716 on: November 04, 2018, 08:01:04 PM »

Knicks within three. 

Let's make a game of it, guys. 

Second Unit

Kanter-Hezonja-Trier-Mudiay-Burke

Go figure. 

Good to see Mario getting boards and assists. 

Let the game come to you, kid.  Nothing to prove.  Don't force things.  Make plays.  Shots will come.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #1717 on: November 05, 2018, 01:51:25 AM »

Young pups will foul especially against vet teams. It’s going to be a big part of keeping tank hopes alive.

I think Vonleh can chill out and he can find a way to play aggressively without commission of fouls.

Mitch showed the rawness as well, as did Frank.

Dotson was very steady.

If the team is smart, Hardaway will sit tomorrow and possibly for a while after that. It gives a window to evaluate guards further down our rotation.

We slowed it down against Washington. This was the closest I’ve seen to a Jeff Hornacek offense this year. We also let them chase our handoff actions way higher than normal due to a combination of bad screens and bad setups. Skilled vets made us pay.

On to the Bulls and hopefully a better result.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #1718 on: November 05, 2018, 06:39:46 AM »

Putting Hardaway back in Fizzled.
And might mean that he can't go for next game.
Clyde&Breen kept talking about how Tim didn't look right for about 6 mins of play in the 2Q after Tim came back in.  Not smart.
We have a deep team and can absorb losses.  they should have played it safe.  Or taken him out when it was clear he was stiff.  back troubles are limiting in all aspects.

Knix really need to limit the fouls, especially the useless ones.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #1719 on: November 05, 2018, 07:02:41 AM »

Vonleh needs to play smarter on D.
Taking himself out of games with his fouls.

Mud had a messy game.

Datsun looked good.
Tryer with fire.  Gotta like the kid standing up to Wall and others.
Got a bit emotional, but kept it in check and played hard.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #1720 on: November 05, 2018, 08:41:00 AM »

Struggling Wizards D holds scattered Knicks to 95

Pfffffffffffttttttttttt........
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #1721 on: November 05, 2018, 09:02:02 AM »

"Mud had a messy game"

90-86 Wiz

Substitution - Ntilikina enters game for Mudiay

NOT a point guard
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« Reply #1722 on: November 05, 2018, 10:23:51 AM »

Did you see Mud nearly toss away 4 passes in a short span?  And lose his dribble.  Mud did steal a real lazy Wiz backcourt pass.  And got 3 FT's when Jeff Green decided to foul him on a late closeout.  Which somewhat redeemed an otherwise very poor outing.  Mud also looks chunky again. Green mostly had a good game, but I never trust that guy's head.

Franc didn't do much and missed 3 treys mid to late 4Q.
Those plus a Kanter missed 3 meant a lot of empty trips for NYK.
I also think Franc's defense gets overpraised.  He takes good angles, tries to get over picks mostly, but is foul prone and gets caught napping at times.

Clock's ticking on Mud's career . . .
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #1723 on: November 05, 2018, 11:19:07 AM »

Cap saving?

Heh

You trade Hardaway and you will be looking for a Hardaway.

Actually if you trade Hardaway and Courtly and draft one of RJ/Reddish/Little, renounce all FAs but Vonleh, Dotson and Trier, you have enough money to sign Kemba (Bronx stand up!) and Kevin Durant.

Kemba/RJ/KD/KP/Big Meech with Franc/Trier/Knox/Vonleh/MLE signing off the bench works.

This is an example of a deal which gets you far enough under the cap to try:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybt293hk

or

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y83nakcf   (this version saves the Kings $7m this year which they can use to take on other teams' contracts along with 1st rounders)
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #1724 on: November 05, 2018, 12:10:19 PM »

Early whistles on both ends got us second guessing everything which is no way to play. Communicationon the floor wasn’t there for us to pick it back up. This won’t be the last time our starters pick up quick fouls, though please let’s work on that also, so we need to address refocusing on the fly or things will be prone to fall apart under pressure. It’s something teams and players have to learn.
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