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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[facilitatorn]

If only he could keep it to baseball and basketball...

[bodiddley]

I only caught the first half of IND-BOS.
Tatum looked pretty good, like usual.
Splashed ina  picture perfect elbow 3.  Came flying in form the weak side (the 3 point line where he had spotted up) for a rebound/putback jam.  And he played good defense.  Talented cat, a little less involved so far this year.

Whenever I see IND, Oladipo plays poorly.  He was 1-5 in the 1Q with 3 turnovers.  Did get some deflections and steals which he excels at.
Apparently he has bronchitis.  And came alive late, (which I missed).

[Nagel]

Tatum is a prototypical big wing in the new look run and gun NBA. 

Unless I miss my guess, you do not share my enthusiasm for Danny Ainge and the deal he crafted in copping both Tatum and a #1 for Fultz.

Fultz looks to be coming along, but I make that trade 99 times out of 100. 

MEANWHILE: Warming up to Robinson & Trier yet?

i sure am. .

Trier looks like the perfect weapon for the second team ( then again so does Dotson) and Robinson will be manning the middle for years ( he is 20) to come.

he is the true steal of the draft at 36.  he hasn't touched his potential as a rim protector and rebounder and allows KP to stay exactly where he should.

the 4. those two will make going to the rim very uncomfortable for a very long time.

Fizzle going to Robinson so early in the season let's EK know what's his future is.  his money is more important than him.  Robinson is relentless.  he goes after everything.  so much to learn.  so much time to learn it.he may still be growing.  he certainly will fill out. 

a win vs the Wiz will warm my cold heart and make me re-think my pre-season prediction.

[kiidcarter8]

NBA is nicely built right now for Robinson

Not many post up guys being used as such

I would love to see some of these practices where he goes against Kanter.  That's great schooling.

[kiidcarter8]

Bank is politicking re:  Tatum

He knows I only "shit on" Jayson as being the top overall pick in 2017.

[thebizneverloses]

Given that the aforementioned two guys were free and clear, and our guy hadn't actually achieved a whole lot outside of really pissing off Marc Gasol.

Casey was fired after Fiz was hired, so Casey was neither free nor clear.

I think Bud was the best coach for a team wishing to win now. But I love Fiz for a team trying to win two years from now.

[thebizneverloses]

If KZ comes back healthy, Knox has a strong year and the Knix seem able to sort out the PG situation, we get a high draft pick, Knix might have a slight chance of landing KD.

I think in order for KD to come here, the following must happen:

- Ntilikina looks like an all-D type player with a passable enough offensive game to not be simply another MKG
- KP shows enough this year to give confidence he'll be an all-star again next year
- Knox goes for 20+ a few times, showing he can fill it up
- Lee comes back healthy, plays a bit, and is traded for a lump of coal expiring contract OR (less likely) Timmy is moved in a cap-clearing move
- Goodbye Baker, Mudiay, Kanter, Hezonja
- Vonleh sticks around, barely has a cap hold so no worries. Same with Dotson. And obviously Iso Zo
- Hardwood Mitch! remains a phenomenon (h/t Kam)
- Knicks players gush over Fiz
- Knicks get one of RJ, Little, or Reddish or another player with potential as both a defender and playmaker (don't think, say, Bol or Zion make sense around a Durant/Porzingis pair)
- Warriors win, but Lebron looks happy enough in LA that Durant sees the appeal of joining up with a bunch of kids and being king of the coast.

[thebizneverloses]

Looking like Ainge may have to cash in his prime draft pick mid season

Just not the same C's.  Not sure Hayward will be any help til next year, if that

Best D in the league. Look to me like the second best team in the East come playoff time. They're still scary, and they haven't even traded Rozier/Smart/Kings/Grizz/Clippers pick or whatever.

(Should Ainge offer Hayward, Thies and the Kings pick for Butler and Dieng?)

[thebizneverloses]

Not too concerned about Burke's future with the team.

Here is the list of guys, in least order of concern of losing:

Hicks
Kornet
Mudiay
Baker
Lee
Hey,ZoneUp
Thomas
Kanter
Burke
Hardaway Jr.
Vonleh
Iso Zo
Dotson
Hardwood Mitch
Knox
Frank
KP

I can't quibble more than one spot about any of these guys. Even if, say, Timmy has been the best player, once you factor in age and contract this makes sense.

(Exception being Lee should be last. We need the cap space)

[thebizneverloses]

I don't like Kant & Zonja out there at the same time.

Fiz has to move away from this. It's hard on the eyes.

[thebizneverloses]

You were ahead of the bell curve on Jaylen Brown as well. 

Over the past year people have made suggestions that both Jaylen and Tatum were somehow discoveries after they were drafted. Both guys entered their lone years of college as the TOP prospect on DraftExpress (the bible of draft rankings). They both slipped to third, but these guys were known blue chippers, I don't know, 18-months before they were drafted. They've turned out to be who they were supposed to be.

[thebizneverloses]

Best one-liners while I was gone:

Jimmer Fredette
0 points, 0 boards, 0 assists

Usually when the coach leaves the assistant goes with him.

Lue didnt go to LA....

Who’s Burkina Fatso? I mean Burke ain’t fat, is he?

He is a little around his upper volta ....

[kiiidcarter8]

Cap saving?

Heh

You trade Hardaway and you will be looking for a Hardaway.

[bankshot1]

Bank is politicking re:  Tatum

He knows I only "shit on" Jayson as being the top overall pick in 2017.

kid-The only one spinning here is you. There are no politics involved at all.

You shit on Tatum, and noted and seemingly took pleasure in noting every off night Tatum had last year, much as you did earlier today noting (and cherry-picking) his 9-game stats.

I've no idea why you do it, as its just dumb, but you're just a kid.

And he wasn't the top pick last year, Fultz was. And then your boy Lonzo. And then Tatum.

As to the best pick in '17, you should probably wait a couple of years, you'll have a better idea then as some muscle and maturity are added to the potential.

You're welcome

[kiiidcarter8]

Did I ever say a player picked after 3 was better than Tatum?