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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[carlos123]

Of course they missed that Ellington, Payton, Gibson and Bullock, like Portis - are team options.

heh

"do a nice job" maybe should read "could do better"

They aren’t. They have partially guaranteed contracts. It’s not the same thing.

Is there anything you actually are good at in any way at all?

Fac - Is there anything you actually are good at in any way at all?

Cham - Many things, for example:

I was born in 1948, I'm very good at being born in 1948.

I post here (and there, and everywhere) more than anybody else. So much so that I actually use two names: Chamaco Cartero (that would be kidcarter8) and Chamaaco Cartero (that would be kiidcarter8, with double i).

I'm very good at updating my siggies, from "Liberate Portland" to "Pray for Biden" to "RIP ... whoever strikes my fancy", to name just a few.

I like to provoke other posters, except for carlos123 because I'm afraid he'll bite me or something, you never know with those Hispanics.

I like to contradict anything BoZ says.

That's just 5 things, but I could name many more.

[facilitatorn]

I can see taking Hayward. He’d be a nice fit with our pieces.

I also wouldn’t mind taking Dedmon and pick 50 from Atlanta so they have room to make some bigger moves. They’ve got a window where Young is cost controlled.

[facilitatorn]

Carlos, Kiid is secretly hoping you give him a hickey.

[carlos123]

Carlos, Kiid is secretly hoping you give him a hickey.

Fac - Kiid, are you hoping that carlos123 gives you a hickey?

Cham - I’d prefer one from Trumptin. Failing that, one from Vlad would be ok too. If I can’t get a leader, how about Jimmer or some other white person?

[Kam]

They have the first round:

1.  Minny  - LaMelo Ball
2.  GSW.  - James Wiseman
3.  Hornet - Anthony Edwards
4.  Bulls.  - Deni Avdija
5.  Cavs.  - Obi Toppin

6.  Hawks - Isaac Okoro
7.  Pistons - Patrick Williams
8.  Knicks - Tyrese Haliburton
9.  WBT    - Onyeka Okungwu
10. Suns.  - Devin Vassell

11. Spurs  - Aaron Nesmith
12. Kings  - Killian Hayes
13. Pels.   - Saddiq Bey
14. Celts   - Kira LEwis
15. Magic  - RJ Hampton

16. Portland - Tyrese Maxey
17. Minny.   - Precious Achiuwa
18. Mavs.    - Aleksej Pokusevski
19. Nets.     - Cole Anthony
20. Heat.     - Jalen Smith

21. 76ers. - Malachi Flynn
22. Denver - Josh Green
23. Jazz.    - Theo Maledon
24. Bucks. - Desmond Bane
25. OKC.   - Jaden McDaniels

26. Celts.   - Leonardo Bolmaro
27. Knicks.  - Isaiah Stewart
28. Lakers.  - Tyrell Terry
29. Raptors - Zeke Nnaji
30. Celts.   - Xavier Tillman Sr.

CBS Mock from today:

1.  Minny  - LaMelo Ball
2.  GSW.  - James Wiseman
3.  Hornet - Anthony Edwards
4.  Bulls.  - Obi Toppin
5.  Cavs.  - Deni Avdija

6.  Hawks - Tyrese Haliburton
7.  Pistons - Isaac Okoro
8.  Knicks -  Killian Hayes
9.  WBT    - Onyeka Okungwu
10. Suns.  - Saddiq Bey

11. Spurs  - Devin Vassell
12. Kings  - Aaron Nesmith
13. Pels.   - Kira Lewis
14. Celts   - Cole Anthony
15. Magic  - Patrick Williams

16. Portland - RJ Hampton
17. Minny.   - Precious Achiuwa
18. Mavs.    - Tyrese Maxey
19. Nets.     - Jalen Smith
20. Heat.     - Tre Jones

21. 76ers. - Theo Maledon
22. Denver - Isaiah Stewart
23. Jazz.    - Josh Green
24. Bucks. - Malachi Flynn
25. OKC.   - Jaden McDaniels

26. Celts.   - Leonardo Bolmaro
27. Knicks.  - Desmond Bane
28. Lakers.  - Aleksej Pokusevski
29. Raptors - Cassius Winston
30. Celts.   - Vernon Carey Jr

31. Mavs.  - Tyrell Terry
32. Hornet - Robert Woodard II
33. Minny - Xavier Tillman Sr.
34. 76ers - Cassius Stanley
35. Kings - Zeke Nnaji

36. 76ers - Elijah Hughes
37. WBT  - Nico Mannion
38. Knicks - Tyler Bey

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-mock-draft-2020-lamelo-ball-picked-no-1-by-timberwolves-james-wiseman-goes-no-2-to-warriors/

[bodiddley]

Interesting PHX move.
Everyone seems to move on from Rubio.
Not sure why PHX was shopping Uber-Kelly who had a breakout season.
But there was talk for a while now he was available.
Maybe just worried about his next contract.
Maybe other fit issues.

CPold - Book - Bridges - Cam Johnson - Ayton
I have no doubt CP3 will improve Booker and Ayton, so on that level alone it's probably worth doing.  And now they're playoff team.  But how good cna they be before Paul ages out of good.  And how long will that be.

PHX now has one of the best backcourts.
A quality athletic pup at C.
Bridges a very good defender.
Cam John a sniper.

Be interesting to see who they keep (Ayton? Tank? Saric?) and who they bring in to fill in the gaps.  Clearly need some vet help.
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I guess OKC is going for the full rebuild.  So Adams should be on the block.
Gallo said to be leaving.
SHai - Rubio - Uber - Dort - Bazley
Need some shooters and a PF if Gallo leaves.
Really Gallo is a terrific fit for what they have.

[bodiddley]

The only Mitch trade I've made is to get the #2 pick and hopefully a franchise PG in LaMelo.

But sure, I include RJB and Mitch in trades if we can upgrade and especially get a quality starting PG.  But I don't think RJB has enough trade value for us to move him.

At least my trades have the Knix giving up genuine pieces/value, as opposed to the swindles some concoct where the Knix sweeten a deal by add in Iggy.

[kidcarter8]

Holiday to Bucks for Bledsoe plus picks.
Covington to Portland for Ariza plus picks.

[Kam]

Bucks bag Bogdon Bogdanovic for big bucks in a sign-and-trade deal.

MILWAUKEE front office is all-in on keeping Giannis happy.

So two big Knick targets Booker and Giannis seem to not be going anywhere anytime soon.

[bodiddley]

Jrue Holiday, Bogdan Bogdanovic, Khris Middleton, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Brook Lopez.
Wow.
The way they use Lopez, that's 4 two-way players, and Bog Monster isn't bad on D.
That's also Giannis surrounded by 4 guys who get bang in a 3.
Great job.
Now they need to fill in the bench.

[bodiddley]

Wonder how much Bogx2 contarct is for/

Well, the draft game I like to play is Identify the Potential Busts in the Top 10.
Cause there always are a few.
I'm going to go with Okoro and Hayes.
A defender needs to develop a shot or he is a liability.
Hayes will have a lot of adjustment to make.  And very few Euro Points do well in the NBA.
Tony Parker, Calderon, maybe Rubio is 3rd best, followed by Shroder ...
Did I forget anyone?

Toppin might be my third guess.
Might be one of those players who was terrific in college and his game doesn't translate well.
Turnstile defender, iffy/okay 3-ball.  Team fit might be very important for Obi.
I don't think he'll be a bust but rather a possible disappointment.
Otoh, the CBSports mocker says Toppin is his Rook of the Year fave.

Motivation will be key for WiseMan.  He's saying all the right things about working hard and trying to get to the right situation, but he'll need to put in the work.  Could he be a con or disappoint?  I have no idea.  He'll probably be good but raw and take some time to develop.
Sort of in between Ayton and Mitch ...

Who are the Top 10 Sure Things:
I'd go with Edwards and Avdija.
Edwards has the NBA body and attacking mentality.  Maybe a 6'5" Donovan Mitchell
Avdija seems to have solid skills and feel for the game and could fit on any team.
High floor. 
I also think Okongwu will make a smooth transition.
Seems one of those guys who will be better in the NBA than college.  NBA ready.

TheMelo and TyH have skills and should become quality starters with all-star potential.
Vassell seems solid as well, as a 2-way player.
Depends how they adjust to the NBA.  But a quality starter is what you want Top 10.

Hayes makes me nervous and keep being linked to the Knickers.
Okongwu possibly dropping into our range is very intriguing.
Again, I'm hoping we have a selection of Okongwu, TyH and Vassell.
And hopefully we can get a PG at 27 -- Tre Jones, Malachi Flynn, Cassius Winston.
Or a shooter.  NYK has been linked to Desmond Bane.

[lesterluv]

Jrue Holiday, Bogdan Bogdanovic, Khris Middleton, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Brook Lopez.
Wow.

Bud gonna win 60+ (prorated down for covid sched) with that for sure.
But don't think it gets Giannis the chip.
Pretty sure you still need two stars for that and I only see one.


***f' if they didn't give up a bucketload for a very incremental improvement in Jrue. Think I would have held off a wee bit, lots of real stars floating a round now and in the future, and umpteen draft pick 'n swaps is usually enough to land 'em

[kidcarter8]

DiVincenzo is a great add by Sac'to.   Will do much of what Bogdan did, maybe more.

[kidcarter8]

As for Bucks, they improve as Celtics snooze.

[bodiddley]

Bud gonna win 60+ (prorated down for covid sched) with that for sure.
But don't think it gets Giannis the chip.
Pretty sure you still need two stars for that and I only see one.

While not stars, Jrue, Middleton & Lopez have all been all-stars.
Just a tier below full-blown stars.  Both Lopez and JRue have been the main man on their team, which I always like for my high-level role players (such as an Iguodala or David West).

Have to see how they fill in the bench, but you'd think guys would want to play there since they're now a top contender, likely one of the favorites.

As for incremental, Bledsoe faded in the playoffs two years, while JRue was locking down Dame Lillard last year.  Also, I think Bledsoe needs the ball, while JRue is a better off-ball and complementary ballhandler, allowing Giannis to do his thing plenty.  JRue is the better player on both ends and the better fit.