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« Reply #14250 on: November 16, 2020, 02:39:42 PM »

Supposedly the Knicks rebuffed whatever offer the Celtics made for the #8 pick. 

Happy Chris Paul is going to be in Phoenix.  Apparently he has a strong bond with Coach Monty Williams, and unlike the Knicks, I was wont to suggest, the Suns are farther along in their evolution, vis a vis a strong core of evolving talent.

Knicks may have Barrett and Robinson.  Evolving talents. 

Suns have Booker.  A bonfide star. 

Plus Ayton, Saric, Bridges and Johnson. 

And kept this year's #10 pick [OKC received their 2022 #1]. 

Asd per the Knicks?

Poop is that they are not all in on Haliburton and may be picking up Payton's option.  Awful long range shooter and FT shooter, but very good distributor, penetrator and defender, so stay tuned.  Also, as far as FA options, again, Avery Bradley a good combo guard to have in a backcourt rotation. 

I suspect Dennis Smith is going to be dealt this week,despite the reports of Thibs' affection.   We shall see. 

Vassell, Okoro and Lewis in play. 

I like all of them, and would be happy with any of them, but agree with Bo "Yeah, I'd Trade Mitchell For A Bag Of Magic Beans" D, in that I am rooting for 3&D sharpshooter Vassell.  There may be some PGs with upside at #27.  Not Kira Lewis [he may just fall in the Celtics's lap], but talent.  And what of the diminutive G-Leaguer Jared Harper, already on board, however tentatively.   
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14251 on: November 16, 2020, 02:52:45 PM »

NBA.com does a nice job with this

A look at MINNESOTA

https://www.nba.com/draft/2020/teams/MIN#/
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« Reply #14252 on: November 16, 2020, 03:32:29 PM »

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« Reply #14253 on: November 16, 2020, 03:35:50 PM »

The Knicks still have a long way to go in their path back to relevance, with it now being seven years since they last reached the postseason. There's a new guy -- Leon Rose -- in charge and he's got some work to do. Rose has built out his front office and hired Tom Thibodeau as the team's new coach, but the Knicks still need more pieces for their young core, with it remaining unclear if they already have a foundational piece on the roster. RJ Barrett, last year's No. 3 pick, still needs to add some tools to his repertoire.

A Stat That Matters
11.2 -- The Knicks were outscored by 11.2 points per game from 3-point range. That's the second-worst discrepancy in the 41 seasons of the 3-point line.
-- John Schuhmann

The Way To Go
The Knicks need as many bites at the apple as they can get, and they should be willing/eager to make trades that bring in more picks or young players with potential. Their picks in the Lottery and at the end of the first round should be the best players available, and the work they put in to develop those players is just as critical as the work they put in to prior to making those selections



Under Contract
G: RJ Barrett
G: Wayne Ellington
G: Frank Ntilikina
G: Elfrid Payton
G: Dennis Smith Jr.
G/F: Reggie Bullock
F: Ignas Brazdeikis
F: Taj Gibson
F: Kevin Knox
F: Julius Randle
F: Kenny Wooten
C: Mitchell Robinson

Free Agents
G: Damyean Dotson (restricted)
G: Allonzo Trier (restricted)
F/G: Maurice Harkless (unrestricted)
F: Bobby Portis (team option)


Recent Draft History
2019: RJ Barrett (3), Ignas Brazdeikis (47)*
2018: Kevin Knox (9), Mitchell Robinson (36)
2017: Frank Ntilikina (8), Damyean Dotson (44), Ognjen Jaramaz (58)
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« Reply #14254 on: November 16, 2020, 03:40:42 PM »

Of course they missed that Ellington, Payton, Gibson and Bullock, like Portis - are team options.

heh

"do a nice job" maybe should read "could do better"
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« Reply #14255 on: November 16, 2020, 04:03:30 PM »

Of course they missed that Ellington, Payton, Gibson and Bullock, like Portis - are team options.

heh

"do a nice job" maybe should read "could do better"

Alonzo is gone.  Cutting him and Kadeem Allen loose were the first moves Rose made.  Replaced with Ex-Net Theo Pinson for reasons not altogether clear and PG Jared Harper. 

Dotson and Harkless are unrestricted. 

Of the team options, who, if any stay of Portis, Payton, Gibson, Ellington, Bullock? 

Two Way Contracts: PF Kenny Wooten and PG Jared Harper.

Yes, we need to do a lot better. 

PS: Paul?  I am sure Rose coveted him.  Not so sure Perry was all in, nor that we could've come up with assets Suns did.  Knox a nice piece with Gallinari likely out the door.  Randle?  Not sure that is the direction OKC is going in.  Look for them to shop Adams.

Rubio a great pickup in the short term for OKC.  So is Oubre, thought he is looking for a new contact, so stay tuned. 

PPS: I do not think we are all in on Westbrook.  Hornets make more sense. 

PPPS: Again, what second tier FAs might we pursue at PG.  Van Vleet would want a max.  Like him, but not sure he is worth a max.  Wish we could make a run at Rondo, but do not think he would ajudge us a good fit.  Again, Avery Bradley.  Jeff Teague.  Reggie Jackson. DJ Augustin. Elfred Payton. 
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« Reply #14256 on: November 16, 2020, 04:26:16 PM »

No

I meant NBA.com needs to do better

Thanks for the further notes of correction
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« Reply #14257 on: November 16, 2020, 04:29:00 PM »

I gave you the Teague deal

Don't like any of the others

Rondo may be headed to ATL though I guess we could pry him to NY with starter minutes
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« Reply #14258 on: November 16, 2020, 04:31:25 PM »

Doesn't matter if we had the assets for Paul.  His agent orchestrated the move.  He lands in a good spot

All those chiming in on CP3 and needing to win a title don't know him too well
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« Reply #14259 on: November 16, 2020, 04:54:56 PM »

Of course they missed that Ellington, Payton, Gibson and Bullock, like Portis - are team options.

heh

"do a nice job" maybe should read "could do better"

They aren’t. They have partially guaranteed contracts. It’s not the same thing.

Is there anything you actually are good at in any way at all?
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« Reply #14260 on: November 16, 2020, 05:23:53 PM »

Payton and Bullock guarantee is 1 mil a piece.

Ellington and Gibson get bupkus.
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« Reply #14261 on: November 16, 2020, 07:14:20 PM »

Hayward to NY gains steam...
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« Reply #14262 on: November 16, 2020, 07:41:55 PM »

Team camps - Dec 5
Preseason - Dec 11
(Westchester arena IS open)
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« Reply #14263 on: November 16, 2020, 08:21:19 PM »

Jerami Grant is a free agent
Kris Dunn is a free agent
DerMarr DeRozen is not
Stan Johnson is not
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« Reply #14264 on: November 16, 2020, 08:30:01 PM »

How about D Rose for Smith and the 27?
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