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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


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« Reply #24855 on: September 07, 2022, 12:27:10 PM »
And pointless. Does anyone really think the Knicks were not trying to trade Julius?


If they were - simply to subtract him - he would be gone
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« Reply #24856 on: September 07, 2022, 12:36:16 PM »
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« Reply #24857 on: September 07, 2022, 06:56:33 PM »
Wow.  Just wow.

 The main negotiator in the Knicks Jazz talks on New Yorks side was Gersson Rosas, who was let go by the Timberwolves for his part in a reportedly dysfunctional front office that included his relationship with a team employee. Rosas was hired as a consultant by the Knicks in February but took control of the Mitchell talks because of his relationship with Jazz general manager Justin Zanik
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« Reply #24858 on: September 07, 2022, 06:58:25 PM »
Ainge and Leon never apparently got on the phone with each other.

I don't have an issue with this.   They delegate the groundwork/gruntwork and make the final decision.
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« Reply #24859 on: September 07, 2022, 07:09:39 PM »
https://hoopshype.com/team/new-york-knicks/

Yeah, the fact they never spoke sickens me.  I have been bullish on Leon from day one.  But Gersan Rojas?  A recent addition to the management team leading the talks?  My God.  Then it turns out the Utah GM was closer with the CLE guy.

Read the scroll for other tidbits, including that we now may be targeting Shai-Gil

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« Reply #24860 on: September 07, 2022, 09:35:00 PM »
Grow a pair, Kiid.

Rose was giving Danny just enough attention to make sure some eastern conference team was going to be out of contention for the foreseeable future. Turns out it was the Cavs.

Let us see how the pieces we have fit together before we go shipping them off, eh?
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« Reply #24861 on: September 07, 2022, 10:10:10 PM »
Rose was giving Danny just enough attention to make sure some eastern conference team was going to be out of contention for the foreseeable future. Turns out it was the Cavs.


Stop being so moronic, man.  Bring up the level a bit this season.
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« Reply #24862 on: September 07, 2022, 10:20:29 PM »
Now that I've read the article Kam pasted, I suppose I have the same response that there's nothing new here.

But it's true that having argument piled upon argument is persuasive.

I especially resonate with his comment about Randle playing a style "that doesn't fit with the pace & space of the modern game." Though that makes me think about Thib's capacity to run the offense any differently regardless.

In any case, is anyone aware of trades that the Knicks have turned down? Because they may have put themselves in a position where there's nothing else to do now but hope for the best.

That is, I hear the advantages to getting rid of Randall, and how terrible things will be with him, but I don't hear from the writer (perhaps I missed it) any practical suggestions how that would be done.
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« Reply #24863 on: September 07, 2022, 10:25:51 PM »
I do think winning changes everything.

He suggests that as soon as Julius falters, the fan will pounce.

But if we're playing well together, I'm not so sure. I think with strong but unselfish play, he can earn back the respect of Knick fans.

Sounds corny and unlikely. But it would be wild to see.
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« Reply #24864 on: September 07, 2022, 11:49:10 PM »
Jules as a 30-32 minute guy working hard on the little things can still get us 20 and 10 with a bit more efficiency. He makes up as a rebounder some of what he gives up with positional defense.

Even if he stays as bad as he was last season, he should be more traceable as both the length of his contract and dollars owed go down.
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« Reply #24865 on: September 08, 2022, 10:49:55 AM »
But if we are playing well together, I am not so sure. I think with strong but unselfish play, he can earn back the respect of Knick fans.


He never had it - even after posting a superior season.
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« Reply #24866 on: September 08, 2022, 02:52:53 PM »
It is true. No one but his kid loves Randle the way you love Jimmer.
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« Reply #24867 on: September 08, 2022, 04:06:48 PM »
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« Reply #24868 on: September 08, 2022, 07:53:14 PM »
Yup. And now we got to give the guy a chance. Another rodeo, Jules. Be an unbeatable bull or bronco, not a clown.
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« Reply #24869 on: September 08, 2022, 09:21:45 PM »
Quote from: facilitatorn on September 08, 2022, 07:53:14 PM
Yup. And now we got to give the guy a chance. Another rodeo, Jules. Be an unbeatable bull or bronco, not a clown.

Pride got the best of him negatively last year.

I'm anticipating pride superchrges him this season, with so many handicappers writing him off. 
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