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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7620 on: September 25, 2019, 11:24:03 AM »

I think Knox has a chance to be our leading 4th quarter scorer, though likely it will be the PG.

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« Reply #7621 on: September 25, 2019, 12:01:11 PM »

Knox as 6th man has appeal to it.   Just come in and be a scorer.  As a starter that attitude is problematic when there are more efficient options.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7622 on: September 25, 2019, 12:12:01 PM »

Frank should be in the closing lineup for his defense and clutch shooting he displayed in the Worlds.

You really need to stop this

He has long arms - we get it.
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« Reply #7623 on: September 25, 2019, 03:15:33 PM »

I think we'll want one of Barrett/Knox out there gaining experience.  It's another development year after all.

And some games we'll want Trier/Ellington/Datsun out there late for scoring.  So then Barrett can sit and Knox can get run.
And Barrett will have bad games where he's afflicted with rookie-itis and doesn't deserve late 4Q minutes.  OOur 3 PG's don't make 3's.  Add Randle - Mitch/Taj out  there late 4Q's, then Knox (hopefully) gives you a genuine 3-point threat. 
Instead of non-3 Barrett.Then put another 3-shooter out there with Knox. 

Hopefully Morris will teach Knox how to be more physical and assertive.  Knox often drives and kind of crouches or whatever making himself smaller.  Have to approach things like young Tatum and go strong to the hole.  Morris is going to be a real test for Knox in practice.  Hopefully he learns and doesn't mope or go into a shell.

Franc is more than just extended upper limbs.
He really puts effort into D.  Finds and tracks his man.
He has good awareness and mostly makes good reads.
Tries on screens.  Also can guard 3 positions, making him our
switchiest Guard on D.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7624 on: September 25, 2019, 03:47:29 PM »

Frank switched on most screens at Worlds

I did appreciate his offense - but NBA is a different animal
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Frank & The Backcourt Scrum
« Reply #7625 on: September 25, 2019, 05:09:30 PM »

Frank switched on most screens at Worlds

I did appreciate his offense - but NBA is a different animal

Progress counts for something. 

Someone to compete with:

Smith & Payton at PG

RJ, DD, Trier, Ellington at SG

And presumably offer a 3&D option as well. 

Fizdale purportedly wants DEFENSE. 

Well? 

After December 15 deals may be contemplated.

In the meantime, competition and...quite clearly, the reality of our depth chart at 1-2-3-4-5 is not lost on any of our veterans or pups, whether they are auditioning for the 2019-2020 Knicks' Rotation, the 2020-2021 Knicks Roster or that of the other 29 NBA teams. 

Competition?

There are worse plans going forward.  Let's see if Fizz is capable of translating that into a KNICKS CULTURE. 

Eli Manning & Daniel Jones springs to mind. 

Apples & Oranges?  Fair enough, but my point being, that while youth must be served, it does not necessarily have to be on a fucking silver platter. 
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« Reply #7626 on: September 26, 2019, 08:53:40 AM »

Frank should be in the closing lineup for his defense and clutch shooting he displayed in the Worlds.

You really need to stop this

He has long arms - we get it.

And confidence again.
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« Reply #7627 on: September 26, 2019, 05:21:00 PM »

Frank should be in the closing lineup for his defense and clutch shooting he displayed in the Worlds.

You really need to stop this

He has long arms - we get it.

And confidence again.

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« Reply #7628 on: September 27, 2019, 09:30:42 AM »

Against Team USA, Ntilikina hit two clutch shots down the stretch and finished with 11 points on 5-for-9 shooting and three assists.

“He played like a pro,” said former Knicks/Charlotte European scout Tim Shea, a consultant on overseas talent. “He won’t be a superstar because he maybe isn’t fast enough, but he can defend the point. He got into Kemba’s head late.”

“The big thing was his willingness to shoot the basketball from distance, and his ability to hit floaters was 1B,” Hauselman told The Post. “That’s something he had been terrible at. Suddenly he’s nailing those. He wasn’t passing up shots. It looked like that was changing with FIBA — catching and shooting, shooting off the dribble, being much more decisive.”
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7629 on: September 27, 2019, 09:55:47 AM »

Franc probably works best as a 2nd unit guy at this stage, because he can come in and be more aggressive with his O knowing it's relatively short minutes.  Probably mostly best when he reacts and doesn't overthink.  You have an open shot or a driving lane, take it.

Knix aren't going anywhere this year.  So let Franc offend.

Franco also needs to improve on those weak telegraphed passes.
He was doing those in the Worlds.
And the WC was a mixed bag for Franc, he finished strong but had some iffy earlier games.  It's not like two games are going to change his entire demeanor and game ...
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« Reply #7630 on: September 27, 2019, 03:35:19 PM »

Franc probably works best as a 2nd unit guy at this stage, because he can come in and be more aggressive with his O knowing it's relatively short minutes.  Probably mostly best when he reacts and doesn't overthink.  You have an open shot or a driving lane, take it.

Knix aren't going anywhere this year.  So let Franc offend.

Franco also needs to improve on those weak telegraphed passes.
He was doing those in the Worlds.
And the WC was a mixed bag for Franc, he finished strong but had some iffy earlier games.  It's not like two games are going to change his entire demeanor and game ...

All of the Knicks telegraphed passes. 

But Frank was perhaps more obvious than most.  Often made me wince.  My grandmother knew where his passes were going, and she's been dead for 35 years. 

Perhaps if there were more coherence and continuity to the offense, and logic to the rotations. 

That is on FIZZ. 

New year.  New vets. 

Chance to get it right. 

Smith VS Peyton VS Ntilinkina

Have at it, motherfuckers. 

PS: I like the part about getting into Kemba's head. 
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« Reply #7631 on: September 27, 2019, 03:43:15 PM »

FWIW, ESPN ranks Mitch #98 and Randle 92:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27640475/ranking-best-players-nba-season-100-51

So I wonder, are we the only team in the NBA without a guy rated in the top 90?
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« Reply #7632 on: September 27, 2019, 03:52:23 PM »

Aside from my earlier smartass view that the Knick's first team should compare pretty well with everyone else's second team....

I can support these guys. I'm up to see them confound the naysayers. Or at least see one or two of them reach some unexpected potential.

But with the same coach who presided over the dismal death march of last year's tank?

That's the guy who's going to push them to a new defensive intensity?
That's the guy that's going to lead the team into a bright, new future?

This is where I most struggle to suspend disbelief.

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« Reply #7633 on: September 27, 2019, 04:27:02 PM »

Aside from my earlier smartass view that the Knick's first team should compare pretty well with everyone else's second team....

I can support these guys. I'm up to see them confound the naysayers. Or at least see one or two of them reach some unexpected potential.

But with the same coach who presided over the dismal death march of last year's tank?

That's the guy who's going to push them to a new defensive intensity?
That's the guy that's going to lead the team into a bright, new future?

This is where I most struggle to suspend disbelief.

Hear you. 

I am not quite as despondent about Fizz as you and LesterDawg.

Last year was an aberration, to put it mildly. 

How much of what went down was leadership by committee? 

Telling that neither Mills, nor Perry, nor Fizdale has made a peep this summer. 

Tamping down on expectations or just trying to proceed with a clean slate. 

I am actually excited about our signings.  Particularly Julius Randle, who I think has a chance to be a special player, and a leader.  He seems to be preparing to embrace that challenge. 

With Robinson, Randle, Portis and Taj, we are pretty well covered at the 5-4 spot in the small ball era. 

Likewise with Morris, Knox and Iggy at the 3-4.   

And our scrum at the 1-2-3 should be interesting.  The re-emergence of Frank to challenge at the 1-2-3 being a posisitve development. 

As per rotations and the calls, from Clyde and most of NYC, for defense, Defense, DEFENSE? 

I'm a fan of Fizz, but fuck me, the brother is on the clock. 
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Guess What?
« Reply #7634 on: September 27, 2019, 04:30:29 PM »

Nyets sign a former Knicks SF-PF.

Carmelo?

[Guffaw]

LANCE THOMAS. 

Fits their culture, and fills a need while another ex-Knick, Wilson Chandler, serves his 25 game suspension. 
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