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2 (66.7%)

Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[facilitatorn]

Nice to see we already have our favorites.

Wayne Ellington is who I perceive to be our white flag. Iggy is our victory cigar, at least at first.

[kiidcarter8]

lol, I'm sure you f'd up above and meant to say Kevin.

If so, 100% with it.

More bullish on Knox than previously.

[kiidcarter8]

Brogdon is not a PG.  Indiana seems ready to use him as their primary.  SAC looked as I figured - pretty darn good.

VLAD for Exec of the Year.

[bodiddley]

The Frog is a combo guard.
I assume he'll play a decent amount with another PG out there (Holiday or McConnell).
Brogdon is a super-smart player and makes plays.  My favorite NBAer.
Reminds me I need to catch INDy games this year.  Once Oladipo returns, things will fall into place.

SAC shored up their bench with CoryJoe, Ariza and Rich Holmes (A fave of mine).
But lost WCS.  THey'll compete with Minny for just missing the playoffs.

[facilitatorn]

I think Dedmon replaces WCS just fine. He’s actually an upgrade in certain areas.

The west will be brutal and entertaining.

[Yankguy1]

Brogdon is not a PG.  Indiana seems ready to use him as their primary.  SAC looked as I figured - pretty darn good.

VLAD for Exec of the Year.

One year that annual prediction might come true.

[kiidcarter8]

The Frog is a combo guard.
I assume he'll play a decent amount with another PG out there (Holiday or McConnell).

Not a whole lot, from how it looks and what they are saying

He's miscast.

Perfect example of "let bring these guiys in", without thought to what the mix will look like.  Just added guys willing to sign

[kiidcarter8]

Brogdon is not a PG.  Indiana seems ready to use him as their primary.  SAC looked as I figured - pretty darn good.

VLAD for Exec of the Year.

One year that annual prediction might come true.

Gotta love Vlade.

[facilitatorn]

The Knicks played with themselves in the Columbia gym. It was available all and in part on YouTube. Stuff w live sound may not be around any more.

We got the nice Morris brother. Marcus’s game is nice.

Not only can RJ ball, but he seems easy to ball with.

Mitch should give us 24-30 damn impactful minutes, though he still has a ton of room to grow.

Knox has come a long way in figuring out how to do his job.

I’m gonna start calling Trier “honey badger” cause, well you know...

I like Taj, Ju, and Bobby about the same. As supporting bigs, they are serious upgrades over the O’Quinns and Vonlehs of the world. The frontcourt (and maybe the only) guy we should be hunting shots for is Marcus Morris.

Elfrid and Frank are pressure guards who can make plays. DSJ has some serious catching up to do once his lower back heals.

Iggy will need to transform himself to be net effective. Fortunately we have both the depth and farm system set up to let him do that this year, for which the Knicks will be greatly rewarded by our press (hint, hint).

Ellington not that impressive.

Dot, DSJ, and Reggie B were all scratches.

Wooten also needs to grow his game. We should keep him on with the Wee Knicks if possible.

That midget point guard has gotten no better since summer league and the upgraded competition does him no favors. He’s a year away from being a year and three inches away. I forget his name, but Kiid likes him.

I like Portis Gibson Morris Barrett Payton together and Mitch JuRa Knox Frank Trier as groupings among the guys I’ve seen. Not saying Dot, DSj, and Reggie won’t have parts to play. Iggy and Ellington don’t need minutes except as stop gaps.

[bodiddley]

He's miscast.

Perfect example of "let bring these guys in", without thought to what the mix will look like.  Just added guys willing to sign

And you got all that off one pre-season blowout win?

I'll have to get a look at INDy, but my impression is that The Frog is the kind of player who fits on any team.  A winner who makes smart plays on both ends, is multi-positional, does what's needed.  Generally a smart, efficient young player like Frog doesn't become available, so INDy pounced.

The plan is to have Oladipo do most of the ballhandling, and run a two combo guard set with Dipo and Frogdon.  Every team will look a little off with their star out.  McC and Holiday will get PG minutes with Dipon out.
Get back to me after Dipo returns and gets in rhythm.

They'll figure out the lineup.
My concern is who is going to step up and be the #1 scorer with Dipo out?  Sabonis?  Turner doesn't seem to have that killer O instinct.  Because while I love me some Frog, he's a wonderful complementary player and certainly miscast as primary scorer.

Lots of folks wondering if Sabonis-Turner can coexist, as neither comfortable defending the perimeter.  Though they are hard to defend inside and on the boards too.  I think they can be fine, but if not, either one is eminently trade-able.

Otherwise the INDy bench looks awfully thin.
And speaking of, they drafted Goga Bitadze
McConnell/Holiday - Jer Lamb - McDermott - TJ Leaf - Bitadze
Lotta ofays for kiid to root for, but looks real young and shaky.

Lamb had a terrific season for CHA, displacing the erratic Monk.
McConjob is usually prepared and farily solid, though small.
Anyone else ready for double-digit minutes?

Looks like one of those teams that gets leads with the 1st unit and blows them with reserves.  making the stars have to play long minutes and expend extra energy while doing it.

[facilitatorn]

The additions of Brogdon, Lamb, and Warren were good moves for Indy. I think they will mainly platoon Turner and Sabonis throughout games. They’ll miss Thad though. What’s the latest projection on VO returning?

It will be interesting to see who’s stuff actually works against players in different uniforms.

[bodiddley]

The additions of Brogdon, Lamb, and Warren were good moves for Indy.

Yes, but I think I'd rather have Bogdanovich than Lamb & Warren.

I think they will mainly platoon Turner and Sabonis throughout games. They’ll miss Thad though.

They don't have the personnel to platoon those two.
They have 3 frontcourtsmen: Warren - Sabonis - Turner
After that it's TJ Leafblower and Georgian Bitadze
Even with smallball, they'd have Warren at PF and Lamb at SF.
It's doable some.  And they'll have to experiment especially while Oladeepthroat is out.  But right now the plan is Warren starting SF, and Sabonis-Turner as Bigs.

The weak bench is going to hurt them all year.

[kiidcarter8]

Iggy will need to transform himself...

Que'?

[kiidcarter8]

The additions of Brogdon, Lamb, and Warren were good moves for Indy.

Yes, but I think I'd rather have Bogdanovich than Lamb & Warren.

I think they will mainly platoon Turner and Sabonis throughout games. They’ll miss Thad though.

They don't have the personnel to platoon those two.
They have 3 frontcourtsmen: Warren - Sabonis - Turner
After that it's TJ Leafblower and Georgian Bitadze
Even with smallball, they'd have Warren at PF and Lamb at SF.
It's doable some.  And they'll have to experiment especially while Oladeepthroat is out.  But right now the plan is Warren starting SF, and Sabonis-Turner as Bigs.

The weak bench is going to hurt them all year.

Bottom line as well is that Turner and Sabonis have the talent to both be on the court 2/3+ of the minutes

Yes, they both started yesterday

Would love to see the NBA get back to PF/C combos rather than "positionless" 5 starters with small forwards masking as bigs and PFs as centers

[bodiddley]

Especially for the Knix, since we have Mitch and 4 PF's.
Mitch is pretty unique as C who can detonate perimeter shooters.
He's quick and long. 
Led the league in blocking 3-Pt shots by a wide margin, iirc.
 
I enjoyed GS smallball, with Dray at C.
But when it's just everybody chucks 3's and iffy D, then I just get bored.

A big issue for smallball is whether your guys can defend a position up and can hit 3's to make it hard for the opps Bigs to defend.