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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[luee]

Sorry not impressed. No joy in watching busts Frank and KK throw up bricks. Hopefully some some rookie contributions for future.

[bodiddley]

MaMo was on a one year deal and more concerned about numbers and his next contract than team.  Expect Burks to be fairly similar.  With that said, MaMo put on an impressive offensive display when he was here and carried us some nights.

Most rooks are weak at defense.  And ObiT was known as a poor defender in college.
Also no doubt some teams will go at him.  Griffin tried that some in the opener.

[bodiddley]

5 / $205M for Gobert.
Wowza, I would not want to be a part of that.

[kidcarter8]

Payton could certainly help his cause by hitting a few outside shots.

Not like in their offense he is missing them

EP's effectiveness has been getting to paint.

[facilitatorn]

I like Elfrid a lot. Because he let defenses sag with his awful jumper, his effectiveness just wasn’t all that effective.

[kidcarter8]

Sorry not impressed. No joy in watching busts Frank and KK throw up bricks. Hopefully some some rookie contributions for future.


Frank has been BURIED and Knox made 6 of 7 threes last time out

I am Knox's biggest detractor but SEE the positive , man.

[kidcarter8]

MaMo was on a one year deal and more concerned about numbers and his next contract than team.  Expect Burks to be fairly similar.  With that said, MaMo put on an impressive offensive display when he was here and carried us some nights.



You dont know SHIT

So, you are saying all Thibs positives about TEAM are just lost on Alec Burks.

Jeez-us. 

Showing you are a team guy gets you paid as much as a statline. bro.  I dont recall Morris playing selfishly at all in NY or in LA.

[chipstern]

MaMo was on a one year deal and more concerned about numbers and his next contract than team.  Expect Burks to be fairly similar.  With that said, MaMo put on an impressive offensive display when he was here and carried us some nights.

Most rooks are weak at defense.  And ObiT was known as a poor defender in college.
Also no doubt some teams will go at him.  Griffin tried that some in the opener.

Dig

Okoro tagged as a master defender coming in. 

So far, picking up a lot of Rookie Fouls. 

All rooks are tested.

Saw that Vassell has been racking up steals as a Spur.  Also fouls. 

The thing I am seeing so far in Obi is that he is erring on the side of thinking TEAM, and is thus sometimes over thinking, over passing, passing up shots.  He hears his coach and all of his detractors, and is consciously addressing it.  He will have a break out game over the next 4-6 weeks, and then we will have a more accurate template of his upside on D & O. 

[chipstern]

Sorry not impressed. No joy in watching busts Frank and KK throw up bricks. Hopefully some some rookie contributions for future.

Duh

You might want to pay a virtual/socially distanced visit to a LensCrafters. 

When the Prophet Kiid is addressing your Kevin Knox dismissals in the affirmative, clearly there are issues with your vision and cognitive functions. 

Best wishes for you moving forward. 

[kidcarter8]

Re. Obi

Getting to balls is part of playing defense.  Toppin seems to have that uncanny anticipatory knack.

[chipstern]

The new wrinkles Clippers coach Tyronn Lue added to the offense this season originated from the triangle offense and the ways in which Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan found high rates of success. Lue decided to employ “a few sets” from the triangle because Kawhi Leonard has the skills to operate in the pinch-post area like Bryant did with the Lakers and Jordan did with the Chicago Bulls. And Lue is using this because Leonard expressed a desire to perform in the triangle. – via Broderick Turner @ Los Angeles Times


“We have put in two or three sets of the triangle and let Kawhi play in those spaces where Kobe and Jordan played in those spots as well,” Lue said before Sunday’s practice. “He loves those two players and he really respects and looks up to those guys. So, we just try to put him in position. I was able to play with both those guys and I also played in the triangle, so just trying to teach him that as well … teach our team as well.” – via Broderick Turner @ Los Angeles Times

[luee]

Sorry not impressed. No joy in watching busts Frank and KK throw up bricks. Hopefully some some rookie contributions for future.

Duh

You might want to pay a virtual/socially distanced visit to a LensCrafters. 

When the Prophet Kiid is addressing your Kevin Knox dismissals in the affirmative, clearly there are issues with your vision and cognitive functions. 

Best wishes for you moving forward.

So nice to see the pom poms and rose colored glasses before the season starts. Yeah yeah a 60 win season.

[Kam]

It is a deep and interesting rook class. 
Was a good year to have a 2nd 1st rounder #27.  #23. #25.
Give the NYK credit for that (even if it might have just been dumb luck).

Starting last season we poached Marcus Morris  from the Spur... which was only made possible when Bullock's injury made us change the free agent offer we had initially made to him.  We signed yet another PF but he came on and became a starter at our SF spot.   He put up numbers allowing a trade for the first round pick that became Quickley.

Never would've happened without a series of fortunate events.

[kidcarter8]

Yep

And seems to be a THING in the league now


Sign a guy for a year with hopes you either

- like him enough to foresee you will wish to sign him again - and have the space

or

- can deal him for a pick midseason

Also a thing - signing guys so that you have big enough contracts to send back in a deal for a star (see what Heat did with Meyers Leonard)

[bodiddley]

Yeah, MaMo blew off his commitment to the Spurs offer.  Kinda naughty.
Worked out well for NYK.  But SAS let Bertans go in order to have a roster spot for MaMo.  Oops.

MaMo did a lot of 1-on-1, ballstopping and gunning.  It's just that he did it at a high level, and our offense needed help, so it wasn't that noticeable how much he was going for numbers.  There were games where his defense was pretty desultory, just grabbing guys going for layups.

Portis was another 1-year contract guy who hunted his own shot/points, also willing to take a rebound from a teammate.  Chucked a lot, didn't play team ball.

Players know that they get paid primarily based on scoring.  Scoring and minutes are probably what effect a players next contract the most.
Otherwise playing a role on a winning team helps a fair amount too, but that's not a factor for our Knickerbockers.  After that, having some big crazy Tony Delk night, or exposing one team badly (so that they want that player to fill that hole on their roster -- teams often too impressed by guys who they see in person kill their team).

Burks is on a 1-year deal.  His 6th team in 3 years.  Age 29, he's looking to secure a long-term contract.
Last few years he gets up a lot of shots.  On a team without many shooters, he's gonna be gunning in NYC.  Elf doesn't shoot much, nor Franc, RJB only some, Mitch a lob/putback guy, Randle shoots but is looking to pass more this year, ObiT a rook and team guy.  Knox can be withdrawn.

Burks is going to shoot a lot with at least one eye on his numbers.  Most players convince themselves that the more they score the better it is for the team.
Not saying he's going to go totally rogue -- he doesn't have that clout -- but he's going to launch.  If he shoots at a high clip, it'll be a help.  But a career 36% 3-point shooter, not much of a passer. Expect Burks to be more of a one-man team than team player.  And if his shot goes south, Rivers is there to take minutes from him.  Steady Reg Bullox too.  We'll see.

And every coach, except maybe Fizdale, preaches team.
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Agree that ObiT seems like a team guy.
Knox went 6-7 on 3's but had 1 board and 1 assist.
Gotta contribute whether the shot is falling or not.
I'd like to see Knox pick up one foul a game going hard for rebounds.
Well, not at inopportune times.  Need to see smart aggression.