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Re: Knicks
« Reply #16050 on: January 03, 2021, 04:29:44 PM »

2nd time you've compared TyH to Franc.
Ridiculous.  Zero in common.


Show me some clips saying otherwise

Find me a 5 game stretch where Franc went 53% / 50% / 88%.
Yeah, he's just like Franc except  ... with good offense.

When I watched Kings, Tystick kept the ball moving nicely on O.  Not trying to do too much, just blending in and taking what was there.  I liked his defensive positioning.  Knew when to step in to slow a cutter, when to get back to his man.
 Looked very poised on both ends 5 games into his career.

Your link is broken ...
Here's Ty v. DEN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_CmKrzn4Fs
Looks smooth and smart and fearless to me.  Just like Franc.

Here's pre-season v. Blazers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i88ZeiMkA94
A bit of everything on both ends.
Nice talent.
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« Reply #16051 on: January 03, 2021, 04:37:52 PM »

Find me a 5 game stretch where Franc went 53% / 50% / 88%.


Whether I could find that or not doesnt matter
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« Reply #16052 on: January 03, 2021, 04:43:07 PM »

6 games in, Knix tied with BOS, MIL, BKY and ahead of TOR and MIA -- just as expected.

Weird standings really so far.
DEN and TOR tied for fewest wins with 1.
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« Reply #16053 on: January 03, 2021, 04:44:37 PM »

2nd time you've compared TyH to Franc.
Ridiculous.  Zero in common.


Show me some clips saying otherwise

Find me a 5 game stretch where Franc went 53% / 50% / 88%.
Yeah, he's just like Franc except  ... with good offense.

When I watched Kings, Tystick kept the ball moving nicely on O.  Not trying to do too much, just blending in and taking what was there.  I liked his defensive positioning.  Knew when to step in to slow a cutter, when to get back to his man.
 Looked very poised on both ends 5 games into his career.

Your link is broken ...
Here's Ty v. DEN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_CmKrzn4Fs
Looks smooth and smart and fearless to me.  Just like Franc.

Here's pre-season v. Blazers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i88ZeiMkA94
A bit of everything on both ends.
Nice talent.

Yes

Exactly what I have been seeing

I see what they mean about the shot now.  Looks a bit like Magic with the push action. 
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« Reply #16054 on: January 03, 2021, 07:47:04 PM »

So far I love the Thibs coaching style and hope he will be here for a long time, but I've always had a little concern about having Woodson on the staff.  Can't understand why he was hired when he had his chance and did not do well. 

Just concerned if deep down inside, privately, he would have some sour grape and undermine Thibs or not put in his best effort and advice just to show it wasn't him. 

I keep looking for signs of a Freudian slip, but haven't seen enough comments or interviews to verify.

Jerry

I was never a Woodson enthusiast and while he had a good run replacing D'Antoni midstream, gave way more credit to Jason Kidd for our winning ways, which dissipated after the PG retired. 

But sour grapes? 

REALLY? 

To the point where he would undermine THIBS? 

SERIOUSLY? 

Thibs seems to give great leeway and credit to his staff, likewise, there is NO QUESTION who is in charge. 

The proof is on the court, no?

This is just conjecture...I hope it never happens or comes to fruition!
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« Reply #16055 on: January 03, 2021, 09:01:11 PM »

And So Castles Made By Trump

Fall Into The Dump



Inexorably

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #16056 on: January 03, 2021, 09:49:18 PM »

He’s always been the butt of a sick yolk.
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« Reply #16057 on: January 03, 2021, 10:21:51 PM »

He’s always been the butt of a sick yolk.



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« Reply #16058 on: January 03, 2021, 10:50:22 PM »

Pardon me, but I'd just like to announce that the New York Knicks.....

(drinks water)

(slowly)

....now have a better record than the Brooklyn Nets.

Carry on.
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« Reply #16059 on: January 04, 2021, 12:14:56 AM »

Luca missing time with a quad contusion. Mavs drop one to the Bulls.
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« Reply #16060 on: January 04, 2021, 02:44:51 AM »

I see what they mean about the shot now.  Looks a bit like Magic with the push action.

Or Kevin Martin who had a nice career as a sniper.
Which is the comp that Kings fans are making.
Kev Martian with defense -- sign me up ....

I liked the one play where TyH calmly popped a 28 footer, a step away for the center logo.  Waiting for Franc to do that ...
Funny, you hadn't even seen his 3-point form yet and yet were making dumb comparisons.

TyH looks like a very nice 2-way player with a good feel for the game.
Not super-quick or jump out of the gym athlete, but fluid and crafty.
(One nice play in those vids, Ty fakes casually going left behind a screen and then zips right and drives in for a layup -- the old Moochie Norris play).

THai has an all-around game which is often hard for some to recognize.
Already looks like the guy who keeps Kings halfcourt game flowing.
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« Reply #16061 on: January 04, 2021, 04:55:55 AM »

Let’s see how he does with the wear and tear, but he’s got a lot to like in his game.

I’m pleasantly surprised by a lot of young players so far this year.

It’s a good year for the Knicks to start functioning as a team. The talent race going forward is pretty damn intense.
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« Reply #16062 on: January 04, 2021, 05:16:37 AM »

Bagely wants out of Sacramento. I think we should look into becoming a landing spot.

I’d offer Spellman, DSJ, the 2023 Dallas pick, and a 2023 2nd rounder (I think we’d still have more) for Bagely and Justin James who hasn’t really played for them yet, a 6’7” guy who played his college ball at Wyoming.

Bagely can fight with Obi and Noel for time behind Mitch and Randle. I think he’d quickly become first big off the bench.

Mitch Bagely Noel
Randle Obi Knox
RJ Bullock Iggy
Burks Rivers James
Payton Quickley  Frank

That’s a whale of a team that would be worth the loss of future assets.

I also wouldn’t say no if they wanted Noel over Spellman.

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« Reply #16063 on: January 04, 2021, 07:30:45 AM »

Bagely wants out of Sacramento. I think we should look into becoming a landing spot.

I’d offer Spellman, DSJ, the 2023 Dallas pick, and a 2023 2nd rounder (I think we’d still have more) for Bagely and Justin James who hasn’t really played for them yet, a 6’7” guy who played his college ball at Wyoming.

Bagely can fight with Obi and Noel for time behind Mitch and Randle. I think he’d quickly become first big off the bench.

Mitch Bagely Noel
Randle Obi Knox
RJ Bullock Iggy
Burks Rivers James
Payton Quickley  Frank

That’s a whale of a team that would be worth the loss of future assets.

I also wouldn’t say no if they wanted Noel over Spellman.

Brother Facil....God bless your hopeful spirit. 

Why on Earth would the Kings accept such a cheesy offer? 

He was the #2 pick in 2018 draft, one ahead of Luka? 
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« Reply #16064 on: January 04, 2021, 08:06:36 AM »

Absurdly one-sided.

How about something like:
Hield & Bagley for Randle & Knox + Burks and Smith.

Kings get more scoring and passing from their PF.
So Randle and TyH help Fox run the halfcourt.
Burks helps as vet SG to steady things if TyH gets overwhelmed at times.
Knox and Franc give them some yute wildcards.

Knix get a legit sniper in Hield, a significant SG upgrade.
A very young interesting Big Man rotation of Bagley/ObiT/Mitch.
(Bags turns 22 in 2 months).
Hield 27, should be entering his prime.  Randle a year younger.

Salaries match:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yabfwnw9
I had to put in Franc instead of Burks since Burks can't be traded until Feb 5.

The core of the trade is Randle & Knox for Bagley & Hield.
It gives us 3-Pt shooting we don't have.  And a yute upgrade over Knox.
I'm just not sure of the focus and passion Bags and Buddy bring.
Would need to count on Thibs to toughen them up and keep them sharp.
Or stick with Randle.

Could tweak the trade by Knix giving Franc instead of Smith (if Kings want a little more) or Bullock instead of Burks (if you think we're giving too much).
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