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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


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Re: BoD's Stratagems
« Reply #18465 on: April 28, 2021, 12:02:48 PM »
Quote from: bodiddley on April 28, 2021, 11:42:47 AM
Quote from: chipstern on April 28, 2021, 11:31:40 AM
Mark me down as fervently oppossed to your proposal to offload Mitchell Robinson.

Are you going to:
1) pay Mitch, Noel and Taj?  Invest a bunch of money in C's?
(are we still paying Noah next year?)
2) Keep Mitch and let Noel go? 
run with Mitch, Taj, Pelle
3) Let Taj go?
(mistake imo)

I'll take "If It Ain't Broke Don't Fix It" For $500, Alex. 

Yes, next year is the final year of Noah's stretch [at $6.4 million], and what of it? 

You seem to think that "investing a bunch of money in centers" is a bad idea.

We part ways on THAT. 

Pelle is a taller Theo Pinson, and a good insurance policy. 

You seem to have forgotten how well Mitchell was playing when he got hurt. 

And while both Nerlens and Mitchell are essentially rim protectors, their roles in the offense differ. 

Since when is having 12 fouls to give a bad thing. 

Finally, we do not know how Nerlens will approach the offseason, though I suspect his bond with his team mates, his growth under Thibs, and the allure of being part of something posisitve and on the rise in THE MECCA, will have some play on his thought process. 

As for Taj, he was brought in to be situational and has excelled, whether in or out of the rotation.  I don't believe Gibson will be expecting mega bucks. 
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Down Argentine Way
« Reply #18466 on: April 28, 2021, 12:35:58 PM »
https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/luca-vildoza-1.html

Knicks are apparently [well, allegedly] in hot pursuit of LUCA VILDOZA, a 6'3", 25 years old Argentine point guard/combo guard.

Knicks want Luca Vildoza now
Chema de Lucas: The Knicks will try to sign Luca Vildoza (Baskonia) right away. – via Twitter chemadelucas

Here are some YouTube highlights of his 2020-21 season. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnMAKd3m7mw

Interesting.  Some of his moves at the top of the key to create space and separation, remind me of some recent Derrick Rose machinations.  And among the highlights are some defensive moves.  Will be 26 in August. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #18467 on: April 28, 2021, 12:49:06 PM »
Why is he a free agent?
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« Reply #18468 on: April 28, 2021, 01:12:04 PM »
He’s not. He wrote an NBA buyout into his contract and decided to execute it once we came calling.

Good size, prime age, good recent play in the Spanish League. Let’s see what he brings to the table.
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Re: BoD's Stratagems
« Reply #18469 on: April 28, 2021, 01:21:57 PM »
Quote from: chipstern on April 28, 2021, 12:02:48 PM
Since when is having 12 fouls to give a bad thing. 


Every contender needs elite rim protection.

The center-as-disposable-replaceable-commodity myth is right up there with stolen elections in Georgia and Arizona and Jewish control of the MediaSuperComputer on Mars.

48 minutes of Mitch + Noel is an extraordinary competitive advantage.

That said, would we consider packaging Mitch as part of the payoff for a wonderous A-list piece? Of course.

Do we give Noel some crazy huge cap killing monster contract? Of course not.

*** though he will surely be looking for some decent scratch, still has to make up for that 4year70mil he turned down

But seriously folks, those two start us off in a real nice place.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #18470 on: April 28, 2021, 01:26:36 PM »
4) hold Mitch to his $1.8M deal; re-sign Nawlins (+ Taj on the cheap)
Figure it out next year.
Risks having an unhappy Mitch.

Boogie goes comical early 4Q.
Pels throw a long outlet pass to Lonzo.  Boogie is back, mainly because he was so slow coming upcourt on the Clips possession.  Zo sees Booger and veers out to the 3 point line.  Boogie can't be bothered.  BallZo waits a couple secs, Boogie ain't going out there, so Zo finally shoots the 3.  It kicks around the rim and Jax Hayes runs right past Cousins and tips the rebound, but somehow misses.  Wow.

Fwiw, Hoopshype has Randle 12th in their MVP list
https://hoopshype.com/lists/2020-21-nba-mvp-race-rankings-rumors-jokic-giannis-embiid-curry-kawhi/
Behind a whole bunch of gimps who don't play much.
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« Reply #18471 on: April 28, 2021, 02:00:24 PM »
Do you really think Leon is stupid enough to reup NN and leave Mitchell in hell?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #18472 on: April 28, 2021, 02:49:35 PM »
What hell?  Cant buy a penthouse?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #18473 on: April 28, 2021, 02:52:46 PM »
I think Leon has a lot more leverage now than he would if Mitch were still playing. There could be a somewhat team friendly extension in the offing if our FO plays its cards right.
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« Reply #18474 on: April 28, 2021, 02:53:56 PM »
Burks is out of protocols. I hope he quickly finds his legs.
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Re: BoD's Stratagems
« Reply #18475 on: April 28, 2021, 04:30:21 PM »
Quote from: lesterluv on April 28, 2021, 01:21:57 PM
Quote from: chipstern on April 28, 2021, 12:02:48 PM
Since when is having 12 fouls to give a bad thing. 


Every contender needs elite rim protection.

The center-as-disposable-replaceable-commodity myth is right up there with stolen elections in Georgia and Arizona and Jewish control of the MediaSuperComputer on Mars.

48 minutes of Mitch + Noel is an extraordinary competitive advantage.

That said, would we consider packaging Mitch as part of the payoff for a wonderous A-list piece? Of course.

Do we give Noel some crazy huge cap killing monster contract? Of course not.

*** though he will surely be looking for some decent scratch, still has to make up for that 4year70mil he turned down

But seriously folks, those two start us off in a real nice place.

This is indeed a good problem to have.

I think the question becomes how much money do we invest in 48minutes worth of the Center position?

I think Mitch and Noel would put us well north of 20 mil
I think Noel and Taj or Mitch and Taj would have us under 20 mil

Sign everybody?   Might work for a one year deal but not going to be cost-effective long term.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #18476 on: April 28, 2021, 05:02:41 PM »
Dude

Mitch doesn't get more than 1.8 next year

'22-'23 we can spoil him
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #18477 on: April 28, 2021, 05:47:53 PM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on April 28, 2021, 05:02:41 PM
Dude

Mitch doesn't get more than 1.8 next year

'22-'23 we can spoil him

Noel's free agency complicated things.  Mitch doesn't get more than 1.8 but if we give Nerlens 12-14mil then how do we give Mitch any less? 

As I said before.... it might work for one more year but long-term we risk painting ourselves into a corner.

That's why Noel might be signed by another team this offseason as we don't fight too hard to keep him knowing we have to sign Mitch eventually.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #18478 on: April 28, 2021, 06:46:19 PM »
Yeah...

I think just one year offer to Noel unless we can get him at something like 3-21
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« Reply #18479 on: April 28, 2021, 08:34:50 PM »
Good half for Elfrid

Probably the last we see of him
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