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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[facilitatorn]

That is the kind of stat that would make an idiot miss how much better RJs D got from year one to year two

Kid is just that kind of idiot

[chipstern]

I'd certainly trade Fournier plus some role players for an all-star in Simmons.
Fournier + ObiT + Knox/Taj.  It'd be a steal.
Bad fit?  Figure it out later.
Trust Thibs to get Simmons to work hard.
A Simmons-Randle pairing could be fine.

Simmons is a Top 5 NBA defender.
(Giannis, Kawhi, maybe Embiid, Dray).  One of the very few who can genuinely guard 1-5.  Excellent in transition, great vision/passer.

You have Kemba, Rose, Burks, IQ, Randle to shoot.  RJB a scorer too.

I'd probably also do Fournier + ObiT + Noel, though PHI doesn't need Nawlins, so maybe he'd go to a 3rd team.  That feels like a more realistic level package.
But Knix not going far this year.  Simmons would be a major building block.

If I were PHI, I'd counter by asking for Fournier + RJB + one of Taj/Knox

Lord Have Mercy.

You would trade RJ, wouldn't you? 

[kidcarter8]

Lord Have Mercy.

You would trade RJ, wouldn't you

Where did he say that?

[carlos123]

Q:

Lord Have Mercy.

You would trade RJ, wouldn't you

Where did he say that?

A:

If I were PHI, I'd counter by asking for Fournier + RJB + one of Taj/Knox

COMMENT:

[bodiddley]

Didn't take a position on it.
Just said that that's likely what PHI would ask.
They want players who can contribute now.

If they could get Fournier and RJB + a role player (Taj/Knox), they could be interested.  I doubt Fournier + some backups would excite PHI much.
Sounds like Malik Beasley redux.

Anyway, if Fournicator can't be traded until Dec 15, it's unlikely Simmons stays in PHI that long.  Though possible.

[chipstern]

That is the kind of stat that would make an idiot miss how much better RJs D got from year one to year two

Kid is just that kind of idiot

Perhaps if RJ had a lighter complexion. 

[chipstern]

Didn't take a position on it.
Just said that that's likely what PHI would ask.
They want players who can contribute now.

If they could get Fournier and RJB + a role player (Taj/Knox), they could be interested.  I doubt Fournier + some backups would excite PHI much.
Sounds like Malik Beasley redux.

Anyway, if Fournicator can't be traded until Dec 15, it's unlikely Simmons stays in PHI that long.  Though possible.

I feel you.

Don't see your projections as working chemistry wise. 

The notion that Thibs would embrace Simmons? 

Yes & No. 

Mostly for me, it comes down to being locked into that fucking level of contract commitment to a player whose leadership level is way way below his talent level. 

Again, at the risk of being a broken record [and when has that ever stopped me], given Ben's extraordinary physical stature, at 6'11" 240, and his grace and nimbleness for a player of that size...I think when they Sixers decided to go all in, give him a max, and lock him up, they thought they were getting, oh, I don't know, MAGIC JOHNSON. 

I just DO NOT UNDERSTAND how with all of that talent, he does not have a fire in his belly to get better, and Better AND BETTER, and to dominate, set the tone on offense. 

I mean, what could be more basic than shooting jumpers and making your free throws.  And giving Simmons aptitude for getting to the rack, literally at will, any time he puts his mind to it, he could be getting to the line 6-8-10 times a day.  Magic, as his career advanced, went from getting to the line 300-400 times a season, to 500-675 times a season. 

Anyway, Gentle Ben ain't coming to NY, and there is no way on God's Green Earth I see Leon Rose gutting his team for Ben Simmons. 

[kidcarter8]

Perhaps if RJ had a lighter complexion.

I have championed Barrett here more than anyone

I also do not have blinders on

[kidcarter8]

Chip - stop listening to the press re:  Simmons

[carlos123]

Q:

Lord Have Mercy.

You would trade RJ, wouldn't you

Where did he say that?

A:

If I were PHI, I'd counter by asking for Fournier + RJB + one of Taj/Knox

COMMENT:

Didn't take a position on it.

And I didn't imply that you did, just that you said it.

[kidcarter8]

Interesting


https://thesixersense.com/2021/09/12/sixers-3-possible-ben-simmons-trades-cavaliers/

[facilitatorn]

With Minny and Cleveland there is now a bidding war with Ben between two crappy teams.

Unless he has a no trade clause which I have not heard mentioned this will be resolved soon.

[kidcarter8]

All up to the Philly GM

How big a dick in the end does he want to make Doc Rivers look like?

[bodiddley]

Mostly silly Cav trades.
PHI wants to win now with a healthy prime Embiid.
They don't want role players and picks.

ESP Network writer picked 6 2021 non-lottery picks he thinks will significantly outperform their draft spots. 
https://www.espn.in/nba/insider/story/_/id/32191787/five-nba-rookies-most-likely-outperform-season
4 of them the Knix could have drafted: Jalen Johnson, Cam Thomas, Bones Hyland.  Plus  Keon Johnson who I'm unfamiliar with (taken in the Knix original #21 slot).

He's also high on Minny's 2020 Euro-stash Leandro Bolmaro a 6'7" Argentinian combo G.  #23 pick.

Hope our rooks are up for the task.  But Jalen Johnson and Cam Thomas seem promising.

[kidcarter8]

I think the Knicks drafted for FIT as well

A blossoming sniper 2 guard does what exactly to Barrett?

Knicks wanted guys to max wins for this season, not create puzzles re playing time.  Grimes is a perfect second unit guy if he shows well.  No great expectation of minutes.  McBride or Quickley become tradeable now that there are 2 of them.  And TRADE is what we seek, make no mistake.