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Hamilton Samuels

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Re: Troll Alert
« Reply #24030 on: June 29, 2022, 11:29:39 AM »

Kyrie is another good example why nobody with half a brain gives a flying fuck about the NBA.

Hey...

Aren't you late for your toilet cleaning shift at Mar-A-Lago?

I almost feel sorry for y'all, you adult diaper wearing weenie, if this is how you fill your empty hours.

Clearly, having only half a brain...well, the thing speaks for itself.

Fuck you.

And good night, loser.

It looks like Mr. Utley is not in Chips good graces.

Very UNWISE move by Mr. Utley!

Utley

The Uriah Creep of the Forum.

Suddenly, I have a burgeoning regard for Kiid.

You've had a boner for Kid for years. nice to see you finally coming out, especially during Pride Week.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24031 on: June 29, 2022, 12:28:02 PM »

Hammy, post your sex fantasies in Meander where you May or somewhere like that.

Here when sweaty men bang their bodies together, we like them to keep their shorts on.

Thanks.
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Detroit
« Reply #24032 on: June 29, 2022, 01:56:38 PM »

Tough to lose Burks.

But, okay, inevitable.

Detroit starting to look good.

Cade Cunningham/Killian Hayes/Saben Lee
Jaden Ivey/Alec Burks/Cory Joseph
Saddiq Bey/Hamidou Diallo
Marvin Bagley III/Kelly Olynyk/Isaiah Livers
Isaiah Stewart/Nerlens Noel/Jalen Duren

A Cunningham/Ivey back court, with Bagley and Bey and Stewart up front, and Noel, Duren, Burks and Hayes coming off the pine, is a competitive 9- man rotation. 
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The Heat Is ON
« Reply #24033 on: June 29, 2022, 03:00:36 PM »

Not sure we are done yet. But Detroit appears to be suitably grateful for Duren.  Not that Noel and Burks cannot help them.

Robinson, Sims, Gibson

Randle, Toppin, Hunt

Barrett, Reddish

Fournier, Grimes, Keels

Brunson, Quickley, Rose, McBride


Going to be SERIOUS PRESSURE on Brunson to get the prospective startng five of Fournier, Barrett, Randle and Robinson to cohere and compete at a high level, get us playing with motion and pace and pressure on the paint. 

Are we on the same level as Milwaukee, Boston, Philly, Miami, Chicago and Toronto.  Oh, and Brooklyn? 

Ummmmm...no.  Can we compete?  Potentially, yes. 

There is a second tier of Atlanta, Charlotte, Cleveland that would seem to make up the Eastern Top Ten. 

Then there are teams on the cusp, which would seem to be the Knicks and Wizards. 

Did the Magic, Pacers and Piston get better? 

If healthy, they are all going to be much tougher. 

What then is our path forward? 

As of the July 1 opening of the FA season, having excised Walker, Burks and Noel, and presumably slotting in [Knick On Wood] Brunson and Robinson, our roster, from the oldest players to youngest [and we are clearly, as per Leon Rose, ALL IN ON YOUTH] is now:

Taj Gibson[37]
Derrick Rose [33]
Evan Fournier [29]
Julius Randle [27]
Jalen Brunson [25]
Mitchell Robinson [24]
Obi Toppin [24]
Jerico Sims [23]
Immanuel Quickley [23]
Cam Reddish [22]
RJ Barrett [22]
Quentin Grimes [22]
Feron Hunt [22]
Miles McBride [21]
Trevor Keels [18]

Feron and Jericho are presently on two-ways, Keels is a rookie, and Reddish is on the trading block cusp. 

Jalen is not a top tier PG? 

Be that as it may...

HE IS A GENUINE, ActualFactual POINT GUARD 

He has gotten better in each and every season. 

And we surely saw his competitive edge in the playoffs, as the Mavs made it all the way to going nose to nose with the eventual NBA champs in the Western Finals. 

2021-2022 [Brunson]

31.9 MPG [79 games]
16.3 ppg
2 pt FG% [.545]
3 pt FG% [.373]
FT% [.840]
REB 3.9
ASS 4.8

Worth noting that those stats often came playing next To Luka Doncic, a magnet for opposing defenses. 

As per the notion that we are overpaying [we are] or that Brunson is not top tier [he isn't], for perspective, when we went to playoffs in 2020-21, with a winning record, our PGs were Elfrid Payton and Derrick Rose

2020-2021 [Payton]

23.6 MPG [63 games]
10.1 ppg
2 pt FG% [.383]
3 pt FG% [.375]
FT% [.682]
REB 3.4
ASS 3.2

2020-2021 [Rose]

23.6 MPG [26 games]
12.0 ppg
2 pt FG% [.445]
3 pt FG% [.402]
FT% [.968]
REB 3.0
ASS 4.0

As for the starting PG Brunson is most often compared to, another 6'1" baby bull...

2021-2022
FRED VAN VLEET

37.9 MPG [65 games]
20.3 ppg
2 pt FG% [.403]
3 pt FG% [.377]
FT% [.874]
REB 4.4
ASS 6.7
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24034 on: June 29, 2022, 03:29:43 PM »

Hammy, post your sex fantasies in Meander where you May or somewhere like that.

Here when sweaty men bang their bodies together, we like them to keep their shorts on.

Thanks.

I'm sure chipper can try to defend himself, fac. He's got a little more going on than Larry and likely doesn't need your "help".

Speaking of help, who is going to make the NBA a real sport again?

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« Reply #24035 on: June 29, 2022, 03:35:20 PM »

Received wisdom is that the Magic are not picking up Mo Bamba's option. 

As per Trader Facil, I too would surely like the Knicks to make a run at him. 

Only 24. 

A Harlem kid. 

A real 7-footer with an immense wing span. 

Given how the Magic have yanked his chain year in and year out, he has gotten better. 

2021-2022 [Bamba]

25.9 mpg [71 games]
10.6 ppg
2 Point % [.563]
3 Point % [.381]
FT% [.781]
8.1 REB
1.2 ASS
1.7 Blocks

2021-2022 [Robinson]

25.7 mpg [72 games]
8.5 ppg
2 Point % [.762]
3 Point % [---]
FT % [.486]
8.6 REB
0.5 ASS

Not sure if we have the 10 million MCE, or if that would even get the job done.  A REAL LONG SHOT. 

Got to believe Bamba will get significant interest from any number of our competitors. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24036 on: June 29, 2022, 03:51:29 PM »

One last go before the shit gets real,

Send Randle to Dallas in a sign & trade for Brunson. Let Mitch walk.

Use our gianormous cap space to sign Bamba, Jalen Sticks Smith, and one of Bruce Brown or Caleb Martin, the Unrestricted Charlotte one not the Miami RFA. I might be Cody not Caleb, but I will say Caleb for arguments sake.

Bamba Smith Sims
Toppin Brown Gibson
Reddish Fournier
Barrett Grimes Keels
Brunson IQ Rose McBride

We open spacing and movement among our bigs so Brunson and RJ have room to operate near the rim without sacrificing shot blocking drop coverage by our bigs.

This makes way more sense to me than clearing all our loot for a Brunson Murray backcourt. 

I even managed to keep Fournier on the team and in the rotation.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24037 on: June 29, 2022, 04:18:48 PM »

Mighty white of you.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24038 on: June 29, 2022, 04:33:00 PM »

Thanks, Kiid.  It's like you don't even pretend anymore!!!!!
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24039 on: June 29, 2022, 04:33:18 PM »

One last go before the shit gets real,

Send Randle to Dallas in a sign & trade for Brunson. Let Mitch walk.

Use our gianormous cap space to sign Bamba, Jalen Sticks Smith, and one of Bruce Brown or Caleb Martin, the Unrestricted Charlotte one not the Miami RFA. I might be Cody not Caleb, but I will say Caleb for arguments sake.

Bamba Smith Sims
Toppin Brown Gibson
Reddish Fournier
Barrett Grimes Keels
Brunson IQ Rose McBride

We open spacing and movement among our bigs so Brunson and RJ have room to operate near the rim without sacrificing shot blocking drop coverage by our bigs.

This makes way more sense to me than clearing all our loot for a Brunson Murray backcourt. 

I even managed to keep Fournier on the team and in the rotation.

Good MFing Lord.

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BRIGHTER VISTAS: Knicks Hope Inevitably Springs Eternal
« Reply #24040 on: June 29, 2022, 04:50:46 PM »




We Won't Be Fooled Again... 

Or will we?



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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24041 on: June 29, 2022, 06:39:15 PM »

Atl got Murray. They must really like his pairing with Young. Is this Gallos first run with the Spurs?

Juan Toscano-Anderson and Lu Dort hit the market. Amend my signings list.

Portis, reportedly looking to go back to the Bucks, turned down his option. If we do the Brunson-Randle thing, his situation is worth watching as we will have some big boy shoes to fill.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24042 on: June 29, 2022, 10:18:49 PM »

Atl let it
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24043 on: June 29, 2022, 10:28:43 PM »

Brunson, Quickley, Rose, McBride




Not sure there are many minutes now for IQ - may as well find him a home.  McMiles?  Even tougher to see him on court
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24044 on: June 29, 2022, 10:52:47 PM »

Depth, plus Rose and IQ play as well or better off the ball. I am still not sold that we get much better by adding Brunson, but that seems to be the way we want to go.

I would offer Dallas Fournier and a protected first for the Brunson sign and trade.



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