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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[chipstern]

i would rather take our two number 1s and potentially another pair of protected number 1s in the summer of 2023 and package them to move up in the draft or revisit trade targets next summer


yeah.......

never seems to happen

Opportunities at guys like Mitchell dont come around often.  And yes, you can despise Ainge for knowing this and attempting to exploit it.

Melo 2.1

DM is a talent, a special talent.

The price is WAY TOO HIGH.

FUCK DANNY AINGE.

I'm content to nurture GRIMES.

[facilitatorn]

Reddish is a 3. Randle and Toppin are 4s. It is who you can guard that sets the position.

If we had not just invested in Brunson, I would be more interested in Mitchell. I am doubtful you can have an effective top lineup with those two at the guards.

[kidcarter8]

JR and Obi are 6  9


As was Magic Johnson

[kidcarter8]

The price is WAY TOO HIGH.

FUCK DANNY AINGE.

I am content to nurture GRIMES


Cool.

But you will then have to put up with more Fournier minutes

[chipstern]

The price is WAY TOO HIGH.

FUCK DANNY AINGE.

I am content to nurture GRIMES


Cool.

But you will then have to put up with more Fournier minutes

I'm fine with Fournier, Reddish, RJ and Grimes duking it out for minutes at the 2 & 3.

Also, Reddish and Fournier have trade value independent of Donovan Mitchell. 

[kiidcarter8]

The price is WAY TOO HIGH.

FUCK DANNY AINGE.

I am content to nurture GRIMES


Cool.

But you will then have to put up with more Fournier minutes

I'm fine with Fournier, Reddish, RJ and Grimes duking it out for minutes at the 2 & 3.

Good.  That is what you have

Alternatives are

Quickley/Rose playing some 2
Grimes playing some 1.

[kiidcarter8]

Also, Reddish and Fournier have trade value independent of Donovan Mitchell.



- Right.

But making sense only for the right player

[facilitatorn]

Here is a move I would consider proposing to Charlotte,

Randle and Rose for Hayward and Washington and a protected first.

Mitch Hartenstein Sims
Obi PJ
RJ Reddish Hayward
Grimes Fournier
Brunson Quickley McBride

And we would still have an exception left to do something at the margins.

[kidcarter8]

Hornet run off 5 of 7 wins, then 8 of 9, then 10 of 13

All with Hayward last year

Not dealing him if I am Brentwood Mitch

[facilitatorn]

I have said I am good with standing pat. That makes more sense for us than going after Mitchell at this point.

[jaqdavisone]

I'd stay pat if only to show Ainge punk ass he is not the father of robbing teams.  I love Mitch game and would trade some of the youngins and picks but to me five is enough, with the addition of Randle,Quik or Grimes,  Thats the extent I am going and I don't believe Ainge gets a better deal.  Maybe by the deadline when teams are jockeying for playoff positioning.  Grimes look prime to take the next step. Quik already showed he has game and Obi is a young Amare just waiting for the right point guard to set him up.  I'd really be content to see what we got this year.  The fucking crazy part is Donovan should be on the roster already.  Fuking bannaniz

[kidcarter8]

Good post, JaqD 

Need two sides - well actually three for this offer

1 - salary match
2 - young player to help start the Utah rebuild
3 - bushel of picks Ainge thinks Mitchell is worth.

1 - you would think would be Fornier
2 - Grimes, Toppin or Quickley, maybe sprinkle in Sims
3 - 5, 6, 8???  How much protection?

Not sure there has been a negotiation.  Just a price set by Danny and Knicks ignoring.

Ainge wont bid it down until he gets into it with other teams  - so could take a while before you get a whittled down version we'd all love to see.

[chipstern]

Here is a move I would consider proposing to Charlotte,

Randle and Rose for Hayward and Washington and a protected first.

Mitch Hartenstein Sims
Obi PJ
RJ Reddish Hayward
Grimes Fournier
Brunson Quickley McBride

And we would still have an exception left to do something at the margins.

Gordon Hayward has played 52, 44, 49 games the past three seasons.  Due $30, $31 million over the next two seasons. 

But we're upset about Fournier's contract.

 

Swell idea.

[chipstern]

Here is a move I would consider proposing to Charlotte,

Randle and Rose for Hayward and Washington and a protected first.

Mitch Hartenstein Sims
Obi PJ
RJ Reddish Hayward
Grimes Fournier
Brunson Quickley McBride

And we would still have an exception left to do something at the margins.

Gordon Hayward has played 52, 44, 49 games the past three seasons.  Due $30, $31 million over the next two seasons. 

But we're upset about Fournier's contract.

 

Swell idea.

PS: I like PJ Washington

[kidcarter8]

With salaries where they are at these days, Fournier's is not a bad contract.  It is especially good in that we have a team option for year three which we can pick up and use in a deal - if available.

(NOW - of course for the 18-19 mil we do not want a repeat of the 12 PER performance - I get that.  I do think thee FT percentage was an outlier to his career - and factored into the lower PER  - should get back closer to 80+%)