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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[chipstern]

By all means, lets nail Obi to the bench in the name of nostalgia.



Heh

That's what you read?

That's what you SAID. 

[kidcarter8]

The notion that JULIUS is the primary factor in our descent from 2020-2021 to 2021-2022, well, I think that is simplistic.

 

Maybe.  But Randle's lesser play was a key part in the fall

Other:

1)  Rose missing so much time
2)  Shitcanning of Payton
3)  Other teams getting better

[kidcarter8]

By all means, lets nail Obi to the bench in the name of nostalgia.



Heh

That's what you read?

That's what you SAID.

Better read it again

[kidcarter8]

Anthony Davis?  Russell Westbrook?  The Lakers GUTTED Their Roster And Much Of Their Draft Capital In Pursuit Of SHINY FUCKING OBJECTS.  I repeat  FUCK DONOVAN MITCHELL and SHINY OBJECTS.


Yeah - AD getting old and creaky at 27 was unforeseen - after the TITLE. 

You know I like Ingram and Lonzo but are Lakers winning a title if they kept that duo and the future picks? 

Then after falling from 52-19 to 42-30 and a first round exit - keeping Caldwell Pope, Harrell, Kuzma, with Davis was the answer?  (This is where you slot in that Lakers could have drafted Grimes)

Good Lord.    .

[kidcarter8]

And I love the idea of Melo more than the reality, given that we have younguns like R.J., Cam, Feron and Obi who need floortime more than we as a team need another fucking nostalgia tour. 

 

Obi wouldnt be here

[chipstern]

The Brooklyn Nyets remain a cautionary tale. 

They, too, struck a deal with Danny Ainge.


The Nyets, in exchange for the earthly remains of Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Jason Terry and DJ White, sent Gerald Wallace, Kris Humphries, Marshon Brooks, Kris Joseph, Keith Bogans and first-round picks in 2014, 2016, and 2018, plus the right to swap 2017 first-rounders.  Among those #1 picks geniuses on the internet are so keen for the Knicks to proffer to Danny Ainge, were picks that turned into foundational pieces for a Celtics Dynasty: Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum [you remember him, the bust Kiid insisted the Celtics should have passed on in favor of Fultz or Ball]  Clearly in Ainge's mind, this is what he saw when the Wolves came a knocking, and sees himself strong arming Neon Leon out of. 

Strike ONE

Durant & Kyrie, The Ascension Of The Shiny Objects

Strike TWO

Fire Coach Kenny Atkinson to accomodate The Shiny Objects

Hit by a pitch. 

And to complete the process, and accomodate the Gold Dust Twins, aka, the SHINY OBJECTS, the Nyets ponied up a King's Ransom for James Harden in a complicated four team circle jerk.
 
Rockets: Victor Oladipo, Dante Exum, Rodions Kurucs, 3 BKN first-rounders (22, 24, 26), 1 MIL first (22, unprotected), 4 BKN 1st round swaps (21, 23, 25, 27)

Nets: James Harden

Pacers: Caris LeVert, 2nd-rounder

Cavs: Jarrett Allen, Taurean Prince

Allen is an all-star for the ascendant Cavs.  LaVert was putting up all star numbers for the Pacers when he got hurt.  And believe you me, those #1 picks and #1 swaps are going to haunt the Brooklyn franchise moving forward. 

Strike THREE [& FOUR]

Finally, when Harden grew frustrated with the Nyets, having played only a handful of games with Durant and COVID Martyr Irving, he pushed for a trade. 

Sixers got James Harden and Paul Milsap, the Nyets got Ben Simmons, Seth Curry, Andre Drummond and two a #1 picks. 

STRIKE FIVE

Nyets wanted a shiny object?

Now Irving is going to walk in the summer of 2023. 

And NOW Durant is telling the Nyets, ME NO HAPPY. 

Kevin played ZERO GAMES in 2019-20. 

Kevin played 35 games in 2020-21, putting up 26.9-7.1-5.6

Kevin played 55 games in 2021-22, putting up 29.9-7.4-6.4

All universe numbers based on less than one regular season's games in three years.

Rewarded KD with four years of guaranteed money: $44,119,845$47,649,433 $51,179,020   $54,708,608 through 2026. 

And Kevin is so grateful, he has DEMANDED A TRADE, or the firing of Steve Nash and Sean Marks, thus annointing himself as Don Durant, Capo De General Manager.

Knicks were ALL IN for Durant & Irving, apros pos trading Porzingis. 

We struck out, THANK GOD.  And now we want to revisit Danny Ainge 2.1, 3.2 by gutting our roaster with 4.3

Hmmmm?

SHINY OBJECTS Motherfuckers. 

Shiny Objects.   

[chipstern]

And I love the idea of Melo more than the reality, given that we have younguns like R.J., Cam, Feron and Obi who need floortime more than we as a team need another fucking nostalgia tour. 

 

Obi wouldnt be here

Ah, so.

Then I DIDN'T MISREAD You, Genius. 

Fuck off...

[kidcarter8]

Then why did you say Obi to the  bench?

[kidcarter8]

brunson
rose
mitchell
grimes
barrett
fournier/reddish
randle
anthony
robinson
hartenstein

sims
mcbride
hunt
add a big
keels

[chipstern]

brunson
rose
mitchell
grimes
barrett
fournier/reddish
randle
anthony
robinson
hartenstein

sims
mcbride
hunt
add a big
keels

Brilliant. 

I've got just the man. 

OBI TOPPIN

[kidcarter8]

Allen is an all-star for the ascendant Cavs.  LaVert was putting up all star numbers for the Pacers when he got hurt.  And believe you me, those #1 picks and #1 swaps are going to haunt the Brooklyn franchise moving forward.


LeVert has averaged 53 games played over 6 years

Allen played 56 last year.

Harden of course averages 72.5 games played over 13 seasons

[kidcarter8]

brunson
rose
mitchell
grimes
barrett
fournier/reddish
randle
anthony
robinson
hartenstein

sims
mcbride
hunt
add a big
keels

Brilliant. 

I've got just the man. 

OBI TOPPIN

Really depends on trust, with Sims.  Staying at five bigs could work.

[kidcarter8]

You know Obi doesnt shoot like Melo, like Hartenstein, like (potntial target) Hachimura - right?


Early free agent look for summer 2023

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10041083-way-too-soon-2023-nba-free-agency-rankings-top-30-players

[chipstern]

There is absolutely no rational reason to supplant Obi with Melo.

Does that roster allow us to go deep into the Eastern Conference Playoffs?

Melo played well on a team featuring the Big Three of James, Davis and Westbrook, and the Lakers failed to make the playoffs.  HELLO. 

We are not even at that stage in our evolution. 

And you are going to supplant a 24 year old with a world of potential for a 38 year old on his final furlongs, so he can take a victory lap celebrating our last disasturous SHINY OBJECT TRADE, which coincidentally, featured Carmelo Anthony. 

Moronic on a scale seldom seen since the Knicks traded Rod Strickland for the earthly remains of Maurice Cheeks, citing many of the same fatuous, self-immolating reasons. 

And then, not unlike those Knicks, we will end up with NEITHER Toppin nor Anthony going forward, much as the Knicks ended up without Strickland or Cheeks or ultimately, Mark Jackson. 

PS: Your projection of a trade target which does not even fucking exist, in Brother Hahimura, as justification for offlading Toppin [theoretically in a Mitchell Deal you did not delineate], is some specious, assbackwards nonsense. 

PPS: Hey, let's bring back Jimmer to team with Melo, with the Taste of Kemba still fresh in our mouths. 

[kidcarter8]

There is absolutely no rational reason to supplant Obi with Melo.

Does that roster allow us to go deep into the Eastern Conference Playoffs

Its a better team.

You don't  only improve a team when you can justify that there will be a Finals run.