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« Reply #240 on: August 14, 2018, 09:06:59 PM »

A Soviet T-34 Tank.

Dominant armored vehicle of WWII.


Love it


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Re: Knicks
« Reply #241 on: August 14, 2018, 09:36:43 PM »

Kid, I think you are right that one of our troika of lotto points will probably see many more minutes at the wing than at the point. It won’t be Frank shifting to the wing. It will be Mudiay. Frank or Burke will start and the other will be the primary backup.

Stretching Noah and only paying Lance his guaranteed million instead of paying his full contract has us with cap holds and rookie scales with between 65-70 mil on the books. This will put us in the neighborhood of 40 million under the cap. There’s no law saying we have to commit that space to pedigree vets at top dollar right away. We could be patient, and roll the space forward to a year where our key players are further developed and defined.

Eh

We shall see

If I am betting I dont see Mudiay not quarterbacking this team when he is in
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #242 on: August 14, 2018, 11:24:59 PM »

I think everyone winds up competing at as many positions as possible for a variety of roles.

The two (healthy) guys on the size extremes of this group, Kanter and Burke, are one position guys defensively who get hurt in switch situations not to mention cross-matches.

Otherwise, here are things to find out in camp that can determine rotational usage;

Can Kornet and/or Robinson check PF’s in space?

Are there SF’s Vonleh can cover?

Is Knox strong enough for some PF and sound enough for some SG’s?

Same for Mario.

Who is better defensively, Vonleh or Lance?

Can Hardaway eclipse Lee defensively?

Can Dotson?

Who, if anyone can Mudiay defend?

Can Frank defend SF’s yet, or just all the guards?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #243 on: August 14, 2018, 11:53:50 PM »

I think everyone winds up competing at as many positions as possible for a variety of roles.

The two (healthy) guys on the size extremes of this group, Kanter and Burke, are one position guys defensively who get hurt in switch situations not to mention cross-matches.

Otherwise, here are things to find out in camp that can determine rotational usage;

Can Kornet and/or Robinson check PF’s in space?

Are there SF’s Vonleh can cover?

Is Knox strong enough for some PF and sound enough for some SG’s?

Same for Mario.

Who is better defensively, Vonleh or Lance?

Can Hardaway eclipse Lee defensively?

Can Dotson?

Who, if anyone can Mudiay defend?

Can Frank defend SF’s yet, or just all the guards?

Thank you. 

Good analysis. 

We shall see. 

More fun as a narrative than rooting for a total tank. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #244 on: August 15, 2018, 12:12:08 AM »

That was analysis?

heh
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« Reply #245 on: August 15, 2018, 12:17:15 AM »

Players competing for their next contracts?

Hungry campers.

Enes Kanter is many things, but stupid is not one of them.

I believe he would dearly like to be part of the NEW New York Knicks.  And I think management is open to the possibility. 

Can he step up defensively and develop an effective long-range jumper? 

Competing for his next contract.  Don't write him or his cap hold off quite yet.

Trey Burke?

Also competing for his next contract.  He played with enormous heart and soul when he finally got his chance.  At times, he was an offensive marvel.  Can he improve his defense and ramp up his efficiency. We know he can create for himself, sort of Iverson Light.  But can he make better decisions as a facilitator?

Emmanuel Mudiay.  Next summer the Knicks hold a player option.  Is Mudiay a wash out or simply in need of context and discipline.  Fizdale has already brushed off the notion that he did not receive good coaching in Denver, speaking up for Mike Malone.  Mudiay has enormous physical presence; a big ballhandler with a robust body and good instincts, but tremendously inconsistent, some of which might come down to experience, or the lack thereof, and conditioning, or the lack thereof.  There were times, one was dumbfounded by his lack of basic skills.  There were other times, when everything snapped into focus, and you saw the makings of a first rate point guard, and possibly a truly effective defender. 

Mario Hezonja.  On a one year make good, for MCE money.  It remains to be seen if he can fulfill Fizdale's vision of a positionless player, capable of playing effectively at the 2-3-4.  What is his ideal position?  Who and how well can he defend.  I think his ability to get to the rack, move without the ball, and hit from long range, is a given, least ways, a distinct likelihood, based on the final third of his season with the Magic.  Can he defend?  Who can he defend (2-3-4?).  And at what level?  If any. 

It could go either way. 

Could come next spring, we be exulting the future of our four reclamation projects Kanter-Burke-Mudiay-Hezonja with as much passion as we are currently projecting on to Ntilikina-Knox-Robinson?  Or simply pining away for the draft lottery and free agency? 

Stay tuned.   

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #246 on: August 15, 2018, 12:18:15 AM »

That was analysis?

heh

You smirk and your snark has been duly noted. 

We look forward with keen anticipation to something other than drive bys. 



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Help us, Clarence. 

 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #247 on: August 15, 2018, 12:39:44 AM »

Otherwise, here are things to find out in camp that can determine rotational usage;

Are there SF’s Vonleh can cover?
Who is better defensively, Vonleh or Lance?

Can Hardaway eclipse Lee defensively?

Who, if anyone can Mudiay defend?

Interesting idea that Vonleh is on trial to become the next Lance, as we look ahead to jettisoning an aging Lance with a $1M out after next season.  Can Vonleh hit an occasional open 3-ball?  Can he switch and handle some positions other than PF?

Tim Jr. just needs to become more consistent and focused on both ends.  With more attentiveness, he could be an average defender.

Mud needs defensive work, and also rim finishing.
He is athletic and can get into the paint, but his ups just aren't there when in deep.  Maybe with better conditioning.  Just so much he needs to work on, you can see why DEN gave up on him.  It's late in the day for himto learn how to be an NBA PG, and he can't shoot to play SG.  For this upcoming season, I'm a bit apprehensive the Mud Project may retard Franc's growth.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #248 on: August 15, 2018, 12:51:30 AM »

I think we want the cap space, Chip

Kanter wanted a long term deal this summer - that he didnt get it speaks volumes

Like I said, it's..........

Porzingis, Hardaway, Knox,............ add.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #249 on: August 15, 2018, 03:35:16 AM »

Toward cap space,

The Thunder get Courtney Lee, a defensive downgrade from Robeson, but still a defender and a legit vet sniper to space the floor.

Knicks get Kyle Singler, Alex Abrines, and one of Timothe Luwawu, Terence Furgeson, or Ray Felton (who can refuse to preserve his Bird rights). Alex expires this year for a little under 5 mil. Singler has a team option in 2019-20 and makes a little over 5 mil. The other three are in the 2 mil range and either expire or have team options next summer. We let the three fight it out with Dotson and Baker for the tail slots at wing and cut the rest. We get younger with more cap space in the process.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #250 on: August 15, 2018, 10:49:27 AM »

I think everyone winds up competing at as many positions as possible for a variety of roles.

The two (healthy) guys on the size extremes of this group, Kanter and Burke, are one position guys defensively who get hurt in switch situations not to mention cross-matches.

Otherwise, here are things to find out in camp that can determine rotational usage;

Can Kornet and/or Robinson check PF’s in space?

Are there SF’s Vonleh can cover?

Is Knox strong enough for some PF and sound enough for some SG’s?

Same for Mario.

Who is better defensively, Vonleh or Lance?

Can Hardaway eclipse Lee defensively?

Can Dotson?

Who, if anyone can Mudiay defend?

Can Frank defend SF’s yet, or just all the guards?

Thank you. 

Good analysis. 

We shall see. 

More fun as a narrative than rooting for a total tank.


One can appreciate BOTH a good effort by kids growing up in the NBA as well as appreciate the forces (internal an external) that land the team in a position to add a sublime talent.

Don't take the tank so personally.  Let its studded wheels roll over your prone squishy body.  And feel the relief.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #251 on: August 15, 2018, 12:42:44 PM »

Stop calling it a tank when our troops are about to do everything in their power - working their tails off - to win every possible game.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #252 on: August 15, 2018, 02:00:09 PM »

538 projects the Knix with 25 W's and the 2nd worst record in the Association
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-our-way-too-early-nba-projections-can-tell-us-about-next-season/
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« Reply #253 on: August 15, 2018, 02:26:37 PM »

We could most definitely be a train wreck on scale with some of our big recent train wrecks record wise, if things don’t work out.

If our talent is held to high fitness levels, communicates well and finds a way to play fluidly, they could string some wins together. The fact that we have multiple athletes good enough to get open simultaneously can be a big help, like Tim, Kevin, and Mario all looking to make space at the same time off a 1-5 pick and roll.

We can roll out a lot of shot blocking in Mitchell and Kornet or we can bully the paint with Kanter and Vonleh. We can also mix and match.

Our back court has 3 double digit scorers returning and 3 more or less promising pups.

I think we can match last season’s win total and even exceed it by 3-5 games without any contribution from KP.
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« Reply #254 on: August 15, 2018, 03:13:10 PM »

I think everyone winds up competing at as many positions as possible for a variety of roles.

The two (healthy) guys on the size extremes of this group, Kanter and Burke, are one position guys defensively who get hurt in switch situations not to mention cross-matches.

Otherwise, here are things to find out in camp that can determine rotational usage;

Can Kornet and/or Robinson check PF’s in space?

Are there SF’s Vonleh can cover?


Is Knox strong enough for some PF and sound enough for some SG’s?

Same for Mario.

Who is better defensively, Vonleh or Lance?

Can Hardaway eclipse Lee defensively?

Can Dotson?

Who, if anyone can Mudiay defend?

Can Frank defend SF’s yet, or just all the guards?

I've bolded the questions we already know the answer to. Otherwise, interesting questions.
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