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Re: Knicks
« Reply #465 on: September 04, 2018, 01:42:19 PM »

Apparently the FO thinks Noah can be bought out at a lesser # and wants to negotiate with Noah's camp if they want out to Minny.

I don't see the upside in this gambit.   We MAYBE save a million bucks against the cap?

The good will of setting him free is worth more.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #466 on: September 04, 2018, 02:16:11 PM »

Deng let LAL off $7M or so.

No rush with Noah.
If he wants to meet up with Rose, Butler, Deng(?) and Thibs, he can take a small haircut.

He's getting around $50M for not playing for NYK (inc last year).
Why not try to claw $5M back?
Goodwill among players/agents is mostly bs.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #467 on: September 04, 2018, 03:35:22 PM »

Deng let LAL off $7M or so.

No rush with Noah.
If he wants to meet up with Rose, Butler, Deng(?) and Thibs, he can take a small haircut.

He's getting around $50M for not playing for NYK (inc last year).
Why not try to claw $5M back?
Goodwill among players/agents is mostly bs.

5 mil across 3 years is at best a 1.67 mil cap savings.

I've never heard of anyone giving the Knicks back their money.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #468 on: September 04, 2018, 03:46:39 PM »

If Noah comes to camp more ready to play a role than Kanter, Vonleh, or Kornet, he may win that roster spot. He’s had a couple of years to get healthy and retune his body. It seems he’s fazing out his tornado for an actual jumper. There’s no reason not to see what he’s got in comparison to the other bigs under contract.
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« Reply #469 on: September 04, 2018, 04:32:28 PM »

If Noah comes to camp more ready to play a role than Kanter, Vonleh, or Kornet, he may win that roster spot. He’s had a couple of years to get healthy and retune his body. It seems he’s fazing out his tornado for an actual jumper. There’s no reason not to see what he’s got in comparison to the other bigs under contract.

I don't think Noah will come to camp MORE READY than Kanter or Robinson. 

[Vonleh projected as a PF...do you see him as O'Quinn Lite?  Kornet likely also projected as a stretch 4/hybrid 5]

Again, I am on record as believing we should keep Noah and allow him to compete and to get rotation minutes behind Kanter, and to help compete every day against Enes, and to help mentor Kornet, Robinson and Vonleh. 

I thought Hornacek really blew it big time last season in his treatment of Noah, and don't blame the big guy for freaking on him.  Look at all the minutes Jeff gave to Jack in lieu of tossing Ntilikina into the deep end of the pool.  Made a certain amount of sense, before we got Burke and Mudiay into the mix. 

Noah's contract is old news, over and done with.  We do not have to expunge every move Phil Jackson made: Porzingis, Ntilikina, Lee, Noah.  I doubt Knicks management is going to see it my way, but I fail to see the rationale in dispensing with Lee or Noah for a handful of magic beans or some illusory cap space.  Particularly, as Facil points out, when Noah is probably in the best shape he's been in since we signed him, and has something to contribute to this franchise going forward. 

Likewise, I don't like the idea of simply gifting him to the T-Wolves. 

My two cents, undervalued as it might be. 
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« Reply #470 on: September 04, 2018, 10:04:41 PM »

Make it 3 cents.

Keep Noah and Lee, unless we get something tempting in return.

Especially with Noah, why pay him to play with Minny? doesn't make any sense to me.
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« Reply #471 on: September 04, 2018, 10:56:17 PM »

Make it 3 cents.

Keep Noah and Lee, unless we get something tempting in return.

Especially with Noah, why pay him to play with Minny? doesn't make any sense to me.

SO?

C: Kanter, Noah

PF-C: Porzingis, Kornet, Robinson, Vonleh, [Hicks]

SF-PF: Thomas, Knox, Herzonja

SG-SF: Hardaway, Lee, Dotson [Trier] [Allen]

PG-SG: Ntlilikna, Mudiay, Burke [Baker]

Hicks, Trier and Allen are G-League Bound. 

Noah, Lee and Baker are on the bubble. 

Depends on whether or not Perry is looking to deal or stretch Noah, Lee and/or Baker. 

Kiid sees Robinson as a lock to be on Westchester. 

Hmmmm...I doubt it. 
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« Reply #472 on: September 04, 2018, 10:57:32 PM »

Signed with Milano in January, 2018. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #473 on: September 05, 2018, 01:15:58 PM »

Don't put Noah in your player rotations just yet.

Looks like we have decided to dick with Noah and just cuz we still paying him, don't mean we playin him.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #474 on: September 05, 2018, 02:31:03 PM »

Seems we got ourselves a STAR.

Knox signs with Puma.

How long before KK clashes with KP?
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« Reply #475 on: September 05, 2018, 04:14:56 PM »

Seems we got ourselves a STAR.

Knox signs with Puma.

How long before KK clashes with KP?

Blow it out your ass. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #476 on: September 05, 2018, 04:18:14 PM »

Fiz wants KK to be the lead dog - sort of like Carmelo.

KP gonna just be cool with this?
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« Reply #477 on: September 05, 2018, 05:34:45 PM »

Fiz wants KK to be the lead dog - sort of like Carmelo.

KP gonna just be cool with this?

wrong

Wrong

WRONG

LOUD WRONG.

Nothing about Carmelo

Nothing LIKE Carmelo

KP is not on the court last time I checked. 

And Knox has been communicating steadily with Porzingis, who has been encouraging him. 

Why WOULDN'T KP want KK to play like a lead dog, with OR without him.  Can only make things easier for KP coming back, if all of those double-triple teams he was facing last season after his hot start melted away.  Likewise Timmy.  Likewise Enes.  Likewise Frank-Emmanuel-Trey. 

Why do you feel this compulsion to fabricate BULLSHIT, where none exists.  And the steady drumbeat of your campaign to diminish Fizdale, when there has been ZERO EVIDENCE to suggest any negativity, such as your recent posts, which suggested "...Fiz taking advance credit for Mudiay's strong season...Lame."

Credibility cratering by the minute...
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #478 on: September 05, 2018, 05:58:05 PM »

No dislike of Knox here

Cal's guys usaully show pretty strong.

Hoping they mesh.  But not banking on it.

Even if they dont we may have one of our strongest teams since that one Woodson squad.
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« Reply #479 on: September 05, 2018, 06:00:15 PM »

No dislike of Knox here

Cal's guys usaully show pretty strong.

Hoping they mesh.  But not banking on it.

Even if they dont we may have one of our strongest teams since that one Woodson squad.

Ever since KP showed Phool his ass, you've had a great big hard on for him, as if he were some punk, and not Phool. 

Duly noted. 

As for the Woodson team, you mean THE JASON KIDD TEAM. 

Proof?

Look at the record the next season with no Kidd. 
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