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Who will win Game 5 of the NBA Finals?

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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


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Re: Knicks
« Reply #2580 on: December 06, 2018, 10:36:59 PM »

not a lot of buzz in that game

or D (particularly 1st half)

a boring game
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« Reply #2581 on: December 06, 2018, 10:39:58 PM »

It did demonstrate that if Ball, Fultz, and Tatum are all available and you can only pick one, you take Tatum unless you are an idiot.
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« Reply #2582 on: December 06, 2018, 11:02:58 PM »

Yup, boring f'ing game. More points does not = more fun. Hope the NBA takes note after this tragic experiment of a season. Doubt it though.
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« Reply #2583 on: December 07, 2018, 01:14:37 AM »

We broke Baynes again.

GMs have to build better squads. You need two centers at least who can switch out credibly on a Kyrie or a Reddick and defend the rim and help in space. Checking those boxes is far more important than winning the body and the rebound battle against other centers. That said, Kanter is now pretty solid in his back wall D. If he could rim protect and handle pick and rolls better, a modern team could compete while giving him a starter’s role. He may develop those skills beyond where he’s at and grow more valuable as he matures. You can’t say he hasn’t already added things to his game, though the 3 pointer isn’t one of them.

It was nice to see Kornet stretch his legs for more than 2 seconds. He spent a chunk of his time wide open under the basket with his hands up, which might just be rust from Yabusele and Odjeli (sp?), though I take as a good sign from a 7’ tall guy and a byproduct of him being a real threat to shoot.

Has the buyer’s remorse kicked in on Mario yet?

Also some decent baby steps from our actual draft picks tonight, though both still need a lot of work.

Celts can be very good when they are intent on getting 50/50 balls, as we saw tonight.

We looked young and disorganized under pressure, which was no surprise. 
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« Reply #2584 on: December 07, 2018, 02:53:54 AM »

I like uber-Kelly.

Really missed an opportunity to call him Oubremensch.
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« Reply #2585 on: December 07, 2018, 02:54:51 AM »

As for Wiz, Yes their bench has been and still is poor.

Wall did improve his game from end-to-end blur to actually passing to teammates.  But Wall still plays iffy D.  And terrible transition D.  He's taken up the mantle of superstar who rarely bothers to get back from Wade.  Wall still isn't good in halfcourt clutch situations.  Because his 3-ball isn't that good and he gets smothered on drives and isn't good at running halfcourt sets.  He's also somewhat injury prone.

The idea of Wall is reminiscent of Melo.  Get a somewhat flawed star who is one of the highest paid in the League and watch him lead your team nowhere while sucking up cap space.  But Melo was (I think) 2 years younger, had impressive Olympic credentials, had been very clutch on Denver and was fully healthy.  Players liked Melo and his conditioning was never an issue.  The only advantage I see for Wall is that he plays the crucial PG position and it can be hard to obtain a high quality starting PG.  Also he'll be too old to re-sign to a ridiculous follow-up 2nd contract. 

Neither play defense or seem good at the "leadership thing" (tip of the hat to our recent dead president there).  Not denying Wall has talent, just that his salary outweighs that, and his flaws likely to keep his teams from going far.

I wouldn't take Wall if all we had to give up was cap space and a heavily protected second rounder.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #2586 on: December 07, 2018, 02:56:25 AM »

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« Reply #2587 on: December 07, 2018, 02:59:03 AM »

kid's not gonna like his secret Santa present.

Split the difference -- get him a Lonzo Ball Celt uni ...
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« Reply #2588 on: December 07, 2018, 03:09:30 AM »

Celts with 7 fellers in double figures.
Good game from Rozier. 
Confident and very active (hell on one play he fouled two Knix 20 feet apart trying to stop a fast break).
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« Reply #2589 on: December 07, 2018, 03:16:45 AM »

Benching and reinsertion worked well for Burke, Mud, Trier, Dot.
But all those guys have gone through more career adversity than Franc or Knox.
Everyone is different and may respond differently.
At least the template has been set that you can bounce back from being out of the rotation to starting under Fizz.
But just a cautionary note that DNP's might motivate some guys and sap the confidence of others.  Franc and Knox are quite young and are important to the franchise.
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« Reply #2590 on: December 07, 2018, 03:24:02 AM »

Btw, without Wall, WIZ set a season high with 35 assists.  Shades of last year.  And WASH still went with 3 guards starting: Beal-Sato-Rivers. Beal had a huge game.  Caveat: it was only against creampuff ATL.
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« Reply #2591 on: December 07, 2018, 03:51:42 AM »

Knox, until the other day, hadn't been any better in games than Frank. But he was given a longer rope.

Additionally, this is two coaches who have been frustrated by Frank. Something's up. All we see in games and interviews is someone who appears diligent and determined to get better, always saying the right things. But two coaching staffs have liked him less than we have. Why?
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« Reply #2592 on: December 07, 2018, 05:00:17 AM »

Not sure about that.
Seems most here worry that Franc might not be a starter, might not be a PG, might not be able to offend.

I'm of the opinion that Mud, Burke and Franc all play better when allowed to have long minutes.  That they get in rhythm, read the flow and feel more confident.

I'm also underwhelmed by the Trier at backup PG experiments.
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« Reply #2593 on: December 07, 2018, 06:24:07 AM »

I agree with your latter couple points. Our O looks lost with Trier at the 1. And young players need to be able to establish their rhythm.
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« Reply #2594 on: December 07, 2018, 08:39:20 AM »

 Lakers 12-4 when Rondo does not play 20 minutes.  3-5 when he does
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