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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[kiidcarter8]

Tough OT loss for Heat.  Had last shot in regulation but tip came just after buzzer.  Raptors clamped down on D bigtime.

21 for Wade.  Winslow played well.  Just not enough vs Raps.

Still not out.  Home vs Philly next, then away to Nets.  If Nets lose today that could be a win and in for both teams in Game 82.

[kiidcarter8]

Nets - up 13 vs sloppy unenthused Pacers -  12 minutes away from likely playoff date with Sixers.

7th/8th spot still open.

[Kam]

With 4 assists and 2 rebounds in the first q.

Along with 8 points

[Kam]

Career High 5 assists for Knox so far.
First 10/5/5 game of his career.
First 15/5/5 game of his career.

[kiidcarter8]

D'Angelo was told after the game that it was the clincher.  Had no clue.

Heh

[elephant]

Mario's stock rising. Showing grit, tenacity and smarts.

[Kam]

Four guys with 5 assists

Kevin Knox
Ma hero Hezonja
Dennis And Smith
NY Dot

[facilitatorn]

Parts of that game actually looked ok.

Glad we had worst record clinched already.

[bodiddley]

Mario's stock rising. Showing grit, tenacity and smarts.

... and turnovers.

I don't think NBA execs care much about these late season garbage games.
Delon Wright just put up a trip-dub.
Certainly useful for Zonja since he'll be looking for a contract and otherwise had a poor year.  Would a good team actually want him?

[bodiddley]

Yeah.  I see the Basketball Hall of Very Good welcomed quite a few.

Well, no clear-cut HoFers, which probably helps the borderline cases.

Moncrief

One of the finest defensive guards in NBA history, Moncrief played 10 of his 11 seasons with the Milwaukee Bucks, and he was a five-time All-Star and a two-time Defensive Player of the Year.  A four-time second-team All-NBA player and a first-team All-NBA selection in 1982-83

A great defender who also scored 20 PPG 5 straight seasons and averaged 50% FG for his career.  Led those 80's Bucks teams who were very good but couldn't get past the top East teams (PHI & BOS).

Really the only knock is that his 10 years with the Bucks was short.  Was a 4 year college player and then knee trouble shut him down after 10 years (+ one year comeback try).
I'm always in favor of defenders being recognized.

Sikma & Westphal & Bobby Jones were very good.  I could see them getting in, or on the bubble.  I was a bit surprised by Vlade.  Didn't strike me as a Hall player.  But maybe if you tack on his int'l career, plus exec work now, as a basketball lifer whose been involved in so many aspects.  Not bad for a guy who smoked 5 packs a day (I kid).

[bodiddley]

JimJam got some minutes v Utah.
5-11 FG, but now 0-11 on NBA 3's, which is why he's out there ...

[Kam]

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/kings/why-kings-vlade-divacs-hall-fame-enshrinement-long-overdue

The Serbian-born 7-footer is one of just seven players in NBA history to record more than 13,000 points, 9,000 rebounds, 3,000 assists and 1,500 blocks. The other seven players are either in the Hall of Fame, or likely will be heading there when they become eligible.

Divac concluded his 14-year NBA career following the 2004-05 season. He averaged 11.8 points, 8.2 rebounds and 3.1 assists over 1,134 regular season games.

While his NBA totals are very good, they only tell a small portion of Divac’s impact on the sport.

As a teenager, Divac joined a talented group of young stars on the Yugoslavian National team in 1988. Prior to the split of Yugoslavia, Divac, along with Dino Radja, Toni Kukoc, Drazen Petrovic and Zarko Paspalj, took the international stage by storm.

“It was a great group of guys that each other better,” Divac told ESPN on Saturday following the announcement. “A lot of those guys made it to the NBA.”

Yugoslavia made it all the way to the gold medal game in Seoul, Korea, before falling to Arvydas Sabonis, Sarunas Marciulionis and their Soviet Union teammates by a final of 76-63. This was only the beginning for this squad.

Over his time playing for either the Yugoslavian or Serbian national teams, Divac took home EuroBasket gold medals in 1989, 1991 and 1995, as well as gold medals at the FIBA World Championship in 1990 and 2002.

[bodiddley]

One time All-Star Vlade Divacs . . .

He was a solid, very useful presence on those good Kings teams.
But he really helped the Lakes.
A late 1st round pick (#26), Vlade became a starter by his 2nd year.  Then after 7 solid Lake seasons, they flipped him for Kobe.  After being drafted, Kobe refused to play for CHA and threatened to sit out.  LAL swooped in with a solid offer of a quality starting C.

Vlade with just 2 years in CHA then signed with SAC as a FA.
Where he had a nice 2nd act.
I recall early in his career, Magic getting in Vlade's face and exhorting him to play harder and smarter.  In the playoffs I think.

[bodiddley]

Bobby Jones, another prime defender getting in.

What about Ben Wallace, Chris Webber, Marques Johnson?

I think CWebb would get in if not for his infamous college blunder; the kings choking and never getting to the Finals; and that he took money in college causing his school to get penalized years later.  On NBA play alone, he's borderline and probably gets in.  But those team and college issues hold him back, methinks.

I'm on the fence on Wallace.  4 or 5 great defensive years in DET.
But after he left DET he started breaking down and didn't have much impact.  Also, the poor FT shooting hurt his teams.
But he was a force in the paint, boarding and blocking and intimidating.

I was a Marques Johnson fan back in the day.  Prototypical SF of his era.  5x AS.  Roughly 21 / 7 / 4 assists over a 9 year career.  Bad neck injury cut his career short.  So he was done at 30.
So like Moncrief, didn't have the longevity.
Might have been the first Point-Forward and coined the term.  Pretty fine UCLA career too. 

[elephant]

Mario's stock rising. Showing grit, tenacity and smarts.

... and turnovers.

I don't think NBA execs care much about these late season garbage games.
Delon Wright just put up a trip-dub.
Certainly useful for Zonja since he'll be looking for a contract and otherwise had a poor year.  Would a good team actually want him?

Well, I only know what I'm watching.

It's weird that he's actually running point, and weirder still that he's not bad at it.

I wasn't a great fan, but it's obvious he's playing better. Knicks have won a meager 16 games, but surprisingly, several of them have come directly from his play.