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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[facilitatorn]

As we usually demonstrate almost every year, pretending to assemble a functioning squad fucks up a tank.

My top 5 at the moment are Zion, Morant, then Culver, Clark, and Hunter tied for 3rd.

[bodiddley]

The Netizens.
I noted Embiid is moving poorly on a bum knee.
Had trouble changing ends in Wade's final Home game.
And read that PHI has been awful against penetrating PG's.
Which Embiid's knee makes worse.

Add to all that, PHI's iffy bench, and Simmons inability to shoot, and they are a shaky playoff team.  Nice to see Nets plan to make it a series.

[bodiddley]

I don’t think Fizzy was trying to tank. He’s just incompetent. Would be nice if we fought off Sacramento for Walton. Nah ... ain’t gonna happen.

Not the time to change coaches.
It was a clear tank form early on.
Everybody got to start, tons of different combos, etc.
Competitive losses was the mandate fulfilled.

And Luke unlikely to come to NYK after how Phil was ousted and how he was nixed from a weirdly constructed team in the other media center. 

SAC shouldn't have let Joerger go really.

[carlos123]

I don’t think Fizzy was trying to tank. He’s just incompetent. Would be nice if we fought off Sacramento for Walton. Nah ... ain’t gonna happen.

Not the time to change coaches.
It was a clear tank form early on.
Everybody got to start, tons of different combos, etc.
Competitive losses was the mandate fulfilled.

And Luke unlikely to come to NYK after how Phil was ousted and how he was nixed from a weirdly constructed team in the other media center. 

SAC shouldn't have let Joerger go really.

After pissing off Kristaps Porzingis, Knicks coach David Fizdale reaches out to his injured star to make things right.

MASTER OF OFFENSE AND DEFENSE

Managed players so as to attract every free agent to NY.

DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP ...
COACH'S DECISION       

WHATEVER

[lesterluv]

The artist at work:)

I love this whole idea of competitive losses the perfume salesmen has tried to sell.

We have a f'ing -9.2 point differential. Right down there with the other 2 garbage dwellers.

Let's put that in perspective. That's worse than the 2009 Nets team that won 12 games.

Nothing remotely competitive about this team.

If you can hire an actual coach, you do so immediately, of course.

You don't waste another millisecond teaching youngsters crap.


** Q: Anyone think Bryn Forbes and Derrick White could've been doing what they were doing last night if they were "developed" by FizDale?

[bodiddley]

First 10 games:

DATE   OPPONENT   RESULT   W-L   
Thu, Oct 18 vs Atlanta      W126-107    1-0   
Sat, Oct 20 @Brooklyn      L107-105     1-1   
Sun, Oct 21 vs Boston       L103-101    1-2

Tue, Oct 23 @ Milwauk      L124-113    1-3
  [game was tied 110-all with 3:42 left]
   
Thu, Oct 25 @ Miami         L110-87      1-4   
  [2 Pt game at halftime, blown out in 3Q]

Sat, Oct 27 v GoldenState   L128-100    1-5
Tue, Oct 30  vs  Brooklyn    W115-96     2-5   
Thu, Nov 1 vs Indiana        L107-101     2-6   
   [Knix up 1 with 2:59 left] 
Sat, Nov 3   @ Dallas           W118-106     3-6
Mon, Nov 5 @ Washington  L108-95     3-7
  [tied 84-all with 9 mins left]

First 7 Losses:
3 close losses
1 3Q meltdown
1 4Q meltdown + 1 last 4 min meltdown
1 blowout L v GS

Matches what I recall from early in the season.  Knix with competitive/even 1st Halves, then falling apart in the 3Q (or 4Q).
2 Pt loss to BOS on 2nd game of B2B;  tied with under 4 mins left @MIL; up 1 w/ 3 mins left to IND.  For a young team with a roster of nobodaddies, I'd call that 6 competitive Ls' and just one blowout to the League's best team in the opening 10 games.

More in the series to follow . . .

[facilitatorn]

http://www.thestepien.com/2019/04/13/nba-notes-transition-basketball-orlando-trouble-toronto/

[lesterluv]

First 10 games .....

More in the series to follow . . .

LOL, yeah, like 72 more games in the series to follow, the whole fucking season.

Those were the best 10 games by far.
Ntilikina started all of them, no surprise.
Kanter started first 5 and 20 plus minutes in all five that followed.
Shortly thereafter the season became an acid nightmare.

-9.2 doesn't lie.

[kiidcarter8]

Nice effort by Jamal "better than Mudiay" Murray last night

[Yankguy1]

Heh.

[bodiddley]

-9.2 doesn't lie.

Doesn't tell you much either, without context.
You lose 65 games you're gonna be underwater.
Some final scores don't reflect how competitive the game was:


Tue, Oct 23 @ Milwaukee    L124-113    1-3
  [game was tied 110-all with 3:42 left]
   
Mon, Nov 5 @ Washington  L108-95     3-7
  [tied 84-all with 9 mins left]

An 11 & a 13 Point loss which the Knix were right in until a late collapse.  Competitive losses without good final scores.
Just two examples.  Which you're all-in-one useless stat doesn't address well.

[lesterluv]

Which you're all-in-one useless stat doesn't address well.

lol, 10,000,000x. You are straining and struggling so hard this morning.

my all-in-one usesless stat. You're killing me. Really.

Point differential is the most significant and undeniable indicator with which God has gifted humankind.

But keep on keeping on as much as you like.


** You don't like that one, choose another one. Maybe you like this one. NBA Clutch, defined as w/i +/- 5 pts last five minutes. We had 34 such game situations, 1 above LEAST in the league and our performance in them was WORST IN THE LEAGUE.  If you don't like that one, just go back to your rosy memories of all those valiantly hard fought battles from late October.

[bodiddley]

The Ballad of Les and the Ever-Closed Mind.

Not sure if anyone else cares, and you're obviously (as always) a waste of time to engage with.  I guess that's just how things are these days -- no one ever changes their mind and no one is ever wrong.

So this is starting to feel like a big waste of time:

Games 11-20:

DATE   OPPONENT   RESULT    W-L   

Tue, Nov 6 vs Chicago    L116-115 2OT  3-8
Thu, Nov 8 @ Atlanta        W112-107     4-8

Sun, Nov 11@Toronto       L128-112     4-9
 [down by one 3 mins into the 3Q]
Mon, Nov 12 vs Orlando    L115-89    4-10
   [smoked by 20 in 1Q]   
Thu, Nov 15 @OK City       L128-103     4-11
   [down 15 after 1Q]
   
Sat, Nov 17 @ New Orleans L129-124      4-12
   [Knix led entire game until under 3 mins left]   
Mon, Nov 19 @ Orlando      L131-117      4-13
   [3 Pt game with 9:40 left]
Wed, Nov 21 vs Portland     L118-114      4-14   
   [Knix led almost all 3Q]
Thu, Nov 22 @ Boston        W117-109      5-14   
Sat, Nov 24 vs New Orleans W114-109   6-14

So another 3-7 sequence:
3 Wins (inc. BOS)
3 Close Losses (2 OT CHI); @NO; POR
= 6 Close, Competitive Games
2 Losses competitive until a 3Q & a 4Q breakdown
2 Blowouts losses; ugly 1Q disasters.

6 of 10 Competitive Games
2 2nd half breakdowns
(but 27 mins playing TOR even on the Road isn't bad)
2 Blowout Losses
(ORL smoked us on 2nd game of Road-Home B2B)

First half of the season we had a number of 3Q failures.
One bad quarter killed the Knix frequently.

Of course we were terrible in the clutch.  Who did we have?  Tim Jr as our main option?  Or Trier?  Mudman?  Etc.
We didn't have the talent to win close games.
And later we traded even uneven Tim away.
But we scrapped and fought and kept a lot of games close.
I'd also argue that Fizz wasn't terribly worried about winning anyway.

So that's 1/4 of the season and mostly competitive games and competitive losses.

[lesterluv]

The Ballad of Les and the Ever-Closed Mind.

Not sure if anyone else cares, and you're obviously (as always) a waste of time to engage with.  I guess that's just how things are these days -- no one ever changes their mind and no one is ever wrong.

Sheeittt...things must be awfully slow out there on the other side of the pacific.

You don't address why either of those stats don't matter. Clearly the most important two in demonstrating competitiveness. They don't lie. Now Chicago kept things competitive if you go and actually look at what happened. Full 25 percent more clutch moment games. Not even talking about whether they won or lost them more, were they competitive?

You continue on with a mindless exposition of games from back BEFORE FIZ completely chucked it into the crappot.

Do the LAST THREE QUARTERS OF THE SEASON PLEASE.

Otherwise, quit being the pot calling the kettle black, cause you're absolutely the worst offender of what you accuse me of;))



*** last defense of the desperate as always — attack the poster not the post

[bodiddley]

It seems like you've had trouble understanding from the start that I was planning to do the whole season.  But I'm not sure why the first 1/4 of the season doesn't count.  Sure the tank went all-in later, as we gave up KZ and traded away Tim Jr.

*** last defense of the desperate as always — attack the poster not the post

lol, 10,000,000x. You are straining and struggling so hard this morning.

Which of course, as usual, you initiated.

I actually try to have a conversation and discussion, while you're up for putdowns and smackdowns.  And for some reason dismiss the first 1/4 of the season, since it doesn't fit your narrative.

Really I try to avoid people who post the way you do on the internet.  It's counter-productive and uninteresting.