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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6435 on: June 19, 2019, 12:37:42 PM »

And yeah...a 7 seed would be progress for Hornets

But at the price of Monk, the #12 pick, and the $32M in ending salaries.  They need to be patient.

There are probably teams that Love could help.  But his contract  ($29M, $31M, $31M) and health are major issues.  Love missed 60 games last year, 23 the year before and 22 before that.  He also turns 31 before the season starts.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6436 on: June 19, 2019, 12:38:23 PM »

I think Biz touted Huerter.
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« Reply #6437 on: June 19, 2019, 12:40:09 PM »

For only $67M we could have CP3 & Love . . .
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So how much will Rubio get as a FA?
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If we trade for 8 and 10
« Reply #6438 on: June 19, 2019, 12:54:20 PM »

I want Sekou and Goga
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6439 on: June 19, 2019, 01:04:50 PM »

I dont think you go big/big

But you are pretty much guaranteed 2 of Reddish/Hachi/Goga/Doumbaya.

If one of them goes top 7 you slot in Coby White, Garland, Hunter or Culver

I like it - but I like dealing down to 4 better if Pels are interested.

Lots of talk today that you "lose" DSJ if he is not THE guy.  So if we are going Garland I would expect a Smith deal.

Hachimura said to have a guarantee at 11, as Ainge grimaces.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6440 on: June 19, 2019, 01:07:08 PM »

A 15 min evaluation of RJ's game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj0_bLCMLlA&feature=youtu.be

Negatives:
1) Decision-making -- he led the NCAA in charges!
2) Shooting
3) Defensive effort/awareness
4) Very left-dependent

I don't see any college ball, so it's hard for me to evaluate since I don't know the level and style.  This analysis thinks RJ will do better in the pros where there is better spacing.  Will be interesting when folks 1) force him right & 2) dare him to shoot form distance.  Also, is his D going to be better than Knox?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6441 on: June 19, 2019, 01:45:21 PM »

Will our staff coach defense this year? Knox improved as he went along. Effective strength will help as will the experience. Retaining Jordan would be good for all our young players on that end.

RJ has good tools and some bad habits. Chronologically he should be entering his freshman season. The way he rebounds pushes and finishes translate right away.

If we can get Rubio for 2-3 years at around 10 mil per year, I’d consider it as he’d set a good standard for our puppy guards. I don’t see Jordan or Rubio leading us to the promised land, but they can both get our puppies through the doing stupid shit phase. It’s the main reasons I think we should pursue Ilyasova if he’s actually available.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6442 on: June 19, 2019, 02:00:41 PM »

For only $67M we could have CP3 & Love . . .
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So how much will Rubio get as a FA?

If those contracts ran 2 more years, not 3, it wouldn't be a bad play at all.

It's becoming pretty obvious we're going to go TOTAL FAIL on the big dogs.

At some point you actually have to play basketball, nobody gonna develop in more shit soup as we know, and when it comes to actual sign-on-the-dotted line time, suspect precious few really have the cojones to join the worst team in basketball despite some corny-ass fizdale grins.

Continued purposeful tank is out of the question, already cost us our shot at Zion last year and completely ungame-able. CP & Love hurt or suck, we have the regular just-like-everybody-else-lotto-ticket. They get us into the playoffs, good experience for all. Plus, it would keep us from signing some mid-tier dreck to four year deals...

Three years, however, one too many.



*** meanwhile, nice pickup for the Jazz. Always one of my faves, Conley's got significantly more remaining in the tank than his former colleague and soon-to-be ring wearer Gasol  — IF he stays healthy — a big if, but the West is now wide open and you gotta be in it to win it...
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CP3 and Love are not better than
« Reply #6443 on: June 19, 2019, 03:46:44 PM »

Pat Beverly and Brook Lopez

But a hell of a lot more $$$$
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« Reply #6444 on: June 19, 2019, 03:49:29 PM »

Lets get optimistic given the current environment. Let’s say we retain D’Andre Jordan and get a spite signing of D’Angelo Russell for 38 million between them. It gives us north of 30 mil left with the following players on board

D’Jordan Robinson
Ellison
Knox Dotson
Barrett Trier Frank
D’Russell DJS Allen

A second rounder, and whatever small draft night moves. There’s perimeter scoring and young athletes to throw around to try as defenders. There’s an old young center combo that get along and get the job done. There’s multiple ball handler lineup potential. Power and swing forwards are what we need. Fortunately there are a number to pursue and enough money to land a decent combo if we play our cards right.




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Re: CP3 and Love are not better than
« Reply #6445 on: June 19, 2019, 03:50:00 PM »

Pat Beverly and Brook Lopez

But a hell of a lot more $$$$

Brook blocks shots.
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« Reply #6446 on: June 19, 2019, 09:12:16 PM »

Poach all the Bucks:

Middleton, Brogdon, Lopez
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« Reply #6447 on: June 19, 2019, 10:59:15 PM »

then we'll be JUST LIKE THE BUCKS!



*** except for that one other guy they have....
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« Reply #6448 on: June 20, 2019, 02:32:48 AM »

Just unleash Franc and let him play the same role as the Greek Freak!
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« Reply #6449 on: June 20, 2019, 02:43:46 AM »

So if we could draft one of Hunter/Culver & one of Garland/Coby White in exchange for RJ (and Jr. Smith), would folks do it?  I  would.

More a hypo since I doubt there's any specific deal that could be worked out.   And likely that would be White since Garland expected to go as high as 4th or 5th.
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