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Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM


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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #4920 on: April 07, 2021, 04:23:39 AM »

Not much talent or passion left to entertain and mislead the useless fuckers who bother with the daily telegraph. They’re scraping through the bottom and still can’t find a point.

lol

The point is very clear...crystal.
no1 newspaper.

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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #4921 on: April 07, 2021, 04:52:55 AM »

Every person registering to vote must be properly indentified before their registration can made legal.

Every voter must be properly identified on election day before they're allowed to cast a vote.
 
Voters must have to sign postal ballots, and have their signature checked properly before their vote can be accepted.

That is only fair..."electoral system integrity".
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #4922 on: April 07, 2021, 06:12:45 AM »

San Francisco School Board Rescinds Controversial School Renaming Plan

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/07/984919925/san-francisco-school-board-rescinds-controversial-school-renaming-plan

They wanted to rename an Abraham Lincoln school! Fringe loonies are running amok. Everything is going to have to be named for MLK or BHO. Unless they pinched a secretary.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #4923 on: April 07, 2021, 08:00:56 AM »

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/06/us/deb-haaland-native-american-missing-murdered-unit/index.html

Decades overdue.

The spate of killings and disappearances is awful on both sides of the US-Canada border and needs to be investigated..
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #4924 on: April 07, 2021, 08:04:49 AM »

https://www.axios.com/gerrymandering-states-partisan-redistricting-elections-3ead2a0a-3876-4e85-aaa1-f80efd76daad.html

and

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/05/politics/gerrymandering-election-problem/index.html

The conservatives, like Kid, Ward, and Bambu, prattle on about election integrity, while continuing to ignore gerrymandering. (They also ignore games like shutting down or moving the places in which one can get an acceptable Voter ID or the types of Voter ID that are acceptable, but that's not what these two articles are about.)
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #4925 on: April 07, 2021, 09:11:40 AM »

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/georgia-house-votes-strip-delta-tax-break-after-ceo-criticized-voting-law

heh

35 million in.........

Wouldn't the takeaway here be about free speech?   Can government punish/rebuke a citizen for expressing disagreement with its policies?   
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #4926 on: April 07, 2021, 09:26:50 AM »

(caught up with posts,  now see Josh and Banks made this point...no point waiting for a real response,  I guess)

Meanwhile.....

The New York Times reported yesterday that Congressman Matt Gaetz sought a pre-emptive blanket pardon for himself from President Trump in late November 2020.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/06/us/politics/matt-gaetz-trump-pardon.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

The pardon requested by Gaetz was un-targeted, i.e. it was supposed to cover any unspecified crimes committed by him during his entire life. He also apparently asked for similar pardons for a number of other close Congressional allies too. The White House turned him down.

Legal historians have been quick to point to a well-defined Supreme Court precedent in the case of Burdick v. United States 236 U.S. 79 (1915).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burdick_v._United_States

In this unusual case, George Burdick city editor of the New York Tribune was imprisoned after refusing to accept an unsolicited unconditional pardon issued to him by US President Woodrow Wilson. The pardon was a legal maneuver intended to force Burdick to testify before a grand jury that was investigating whether any Treasury Department employee was leaking information to the press.

George Burdick was fined $500 and imprisoned after refusing to accept the pardon or testify, and taking the Fifth Amendment to protect his newspaper’s sources.

The SCOTUS susbsequently ruled that Burdick was entitled to reject the unwanted pardon because acceptance would have been an implicit admission of guilt. As Burdick was entitled to reject the pardon, he was also entitled to assert his right against self-incrimination under the Fifth Amendment.

The dictum of the court’s opinion was that “a pardon carries an imputation of guilt, acceptance a confession of it”.

And that in a nutshell summarizes the problem Matt Gaetz now faces. Noone asks for a pardon unless they already think they might be guilty of a criminal offense, or likely to be charged with one.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #4927 on: April 07, 2021, 09:38:54 AM »

The dictum of the court’s opinion was that “a pardon carries an imputation of guilt, acceptance a confession of it”.

As you said that's dictum. Or as the Professors in law school took great care to say, "mere" dictum.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #4928 on: April 07, 2021, 09:58:03 AM »

Thanks.   So dictum isn't binding precedent.   Even from SCOTUS.  it's just a comment.
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« Reply #4930 on: April 07, 2021, 10:15:46 AM »

Thanks.   So dictum isn't binding precedent.   Even from SCOTUS.  it's just a comment.
Yep.  And I'd also argue that if one is pardoned before being charged with a crime (like Nixon) it's a tough argument to make that the recipient of the pardon is "admitting" guilt.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #4931 on: April 07, 2021, 10:44:06 AM »

Thanks.   So dictum isn't binding precedent.   Even from SCOTUS.  it's just a comment.
Yep.  And I'd also argue that if one is pardoned before being charged with a crime (like Nixon) it's a tough argument to make that the recipient of the pardon is "admitting" guilt.

Really?


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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #4932 on: April 07, 2021, 10:52:52 AM »

(caught up with posts,  now see Josh and Banks made this point...no point waiting for a real response,  I guess)

Meanwhile.....

The New York Times reported yesterday that Congressman Matt Gaetz sought a pre-emptive blanket pardon for himself from President Trump in late November 2020.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/06/us/politics/matt-gaetz-trump-pardon.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

The pardon requested by Gaetz was un-targeted, i.e. it was supposed to cover any unspecified crimes committed by him during his entire life. He also apparently asked for similar pardons for a number of other close Congressional allies too. The White House turned him down.

Legal historians have been quick to point to a well-defined Supreme Court precedent in the case of Burdick v. United States 236 U.S. 79 (1915).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burdick_v._United_States

In this unusual case, George Burdick city editor of the New York Tribune was imprisoned after refusing to accept an unsolicited unconditional pardon issued to him by US President Woodrow Wilson. The pardon was a legal maneuver intended to force Burdick to testify before a grand jury that was investigating whether any Treasury Department employee was leaking information to the press.

George Burdick was fined $500 and imprisoned after refusing to accept the pardon or testify, and taking the Fifth Amendment to protect his newspaper’s sources.

The SCOTUS susbsequently ruled that Burdick was entitled to reject the unwanted pardon because acceptance would have been an implicit admission of guilt. As Burdick was entitled to reject the pardon, he was also entitled to assert his right against self-incrimination under the Fifth Amendment.

The dictum of the court’s opinion was that “a pardon carries an imputation of guilt, acceptance a confession of it”.

And that in a nutshell summarizes the problem Matt Gaetz now faces. Noone asks for a pardon unless they already think they might be guilty of a criminal offense, or likely to be charged with one.


"Entry-level political operatives have conflated a pardon call from Representative Gaetz -- where he called for President Trump to pardon 'everyone from himself, to his administration, to Joe Exotic' -- with these false and increasingly bizarre, partisan allegations against him," the spokesperson told the outlet.


- spokesperson for Mr Gaetz
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #4933 on: April 07, 2021, 11:05:21 AM »

(caught up with posts,  now see Josh and Banks made this point...no point waiting for a real response,  I guess)

Meanwhile.....

The New York Times reported yesterday that Congressman Matt Gaetz sought a pre-emptive blanket pardon for himself from President Trump in late November 2020.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/06/us/politics/matt-gaetz-trump-pardon.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

The pardon requested by Gaetz was un-targeted, i.e. it was supposed to cover any unspecified crimes committed by him during his entire life. He also apparently asked for similar pardons for a number of other close Congressional allies too. The White House turned him down.

Legal historians have been quick to point to a well-defined Supreme Court precedent in the case of Burdick v. United States 236 U.S. 79 (1915).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burdick_v._United_States

In this unusual case, George Burdick city editor of the New York Tribune was imprisoned after refusing to accept an unsolicited unconditional pardon issued to him by US President Woodrow Wilson. The pardon was a legal maneuver intended to force Burdick to testify before a grand jury that was investigating whether any Treasury Department employee was leaking information to the press.

George Burdick was fined $500 and imprisoned after refusing to accept the pardon or testify, and taking the Fifth Amendment to protect his newspaper’s sources.

The SCOTUS susbsequently ruled that Burdick was entitled to reject the unwanted pardon because acceptance would have been an implicit admission of guilt. As Burdick was entitled to reject the pardon, he was also entitled to assert his right against self-incrimination under the Fifth Amendment.

The dictum of the court’s opinion was that “a pardon carries an imputation of guilt, acceptance a confession of it”.

And that in a nutshell summarizes the problem Matt Gaetz now faces. Noone asks for a pardon unless they already think they might be guilty of a criminal offense, or likely to be charged with one.


"Entry-level political operatives have conflated a pardon call from Representative Gaetz -- where he called for President Trump to pardon 'everyone from himself, to his administration, to Joe Exotic' -- with these false and increasingly bizarre, partisan allegations against him," the spokesperson told the outlet.


- spokesperson for Mr Gaetz


Is that the one who replaced Luke Ball who resigned as spokesperson last week?
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #4934 on: April 07, 2021, 11:28:22 AM »

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/georgia-house-votes-strip-delta-tax-break-after-ceo-criticized-voting-law

heh

35 million in.........

Wouldn't the takeaway here be about free speech?   Can government punish/rebuke a citizen for expressing disagreement with its policies?
A tax break from a state government does not get eternal life, it can be taken away at any time and has nothing to do with free speech.
But in this case it was pure symbolism by the Georgia House if you actually read the article.

Georgia’s State Senate did not bring the House-backed measure up for a vote, effectively scuttling the GOP’s push to revoke the tax break. Some senators reportedly had reservations about revoking a financial incentive as Delta and other airlines contend with the negative effects of the coronavirus pandemic.

The GOP controls the Georgia Senate 34-22.
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