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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[josh]

So, a friend just rang me and told me that:
"They are going to abolish the Electoral College so that Republicans will never be able to win elections again."

Can they do that?

"They" who?

The people of the United States can do that. Congress and the state legislatures can do that.

It's not happening until and unless the GOP decides to get rid of it, not just the Dems.

Read the US Constitution, would you please Then keep a copy.

[Yankguy1]

It’s only “ Socialism” when Red doesn’t agree with the use of his tax dollars. I.e. taxpayer funded police departments to protect well-being of citizenry=not socialism. Taxpayer dollars for health care to protect well being of citizenry=socialism.

You will have to do better than that.

Nope. That about covers it. You’re a lazy educator and a political hack.

[Hamilton Samuels]

It’s only “ Socialism” when Red doesn’t agree with the use of his tax dollars. I.e. taxpayer funded police departments to protect well-being of citizenry=not socialism. Taxpayer dollars for health care to protect well being of citizenry=socialism.

You will have to do better than that.

Nope. That about covers it. You’re a lazy educator and a political hack.

Lazy Educator And Political Hack.

LEAPH.

[kidcarter8]

Parler games.

Judge Refuses To Reinstate Parler After Amazon Shut It Down

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/21/956486352/judge-refuses-to-reinstate-parler-after-amazon-shut-it-down

Expected.

Judge would have had to rule that Amazon and Twitter colluded.

The request for the injunction was a PR move on Parler's part. 

[REDSTATEWARD]

It’s only “ Socialism” when Red doesn’t agree with the use of his tax dollars. I.e. taxpayer funded police departments to protect well-being of citizenry=not socialism. Taxpayer dollars for health care to protect well being of citizenry=socialism.

You will have to do better than that.

Nope. That about covers it. You’re a lazy educator and a political hack.

Tax dollars funding police departments = socialism.
LOL

[Yankguy1]

LOL!!!!  I’ve got plenty of money, I can pay for my own protection. Why should I pay for anybody else’s? Socialism!!!! LOL!!!!

Do you ever think about things? LOL!!!!

[Yankguy1]

I'm perfectly willing to hear your definition of socialism if it's anything other than the government (and "socialist cocksuckers" in it) paying for things you don't like.  Though I'm certain any such definition will be as laughable as any of your other pronouncements.

[REDSTATEWARD]

It’s only “ Socialism” when Red doesn’t agree with the use of his tax dollars. I.e. taxpayer funded police departments to protect well-being of citizenry=not socialism. Taxpayer dollars for health care to protect well being of citizenry=socialism.

You will have to do better than that.

Nope. That about covers it. You’re a lazy educator and a political hack.

Tax money paying a portion of local services is not socialism.
Where you got that notion is beyond me.
It also did not come from me.

[Yankguy1]

Tax money paying a portion of local services is not socialism.  I'll  put this in the "Red likes it, it's not socialism" category
 
Still waiting for another definition.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Tax money paying a portion of local services is not socialism.  I'll  put this in the "Red likes it, it's not socialism" category
 
Still waiting for another definition.

Another definition of what?

[josh]

LOL!!!!  I’ve got plenty of money, I can pay for my own protection. Why should I pay for anybody else’s? Socialism!!!! LOL!!!!

Do you ever think about things? LOL!!!!

Shockingly enough, there are many types of libertarianism.

And some of them are opposed to community police and fire departments. We have counties in the US where you have the choice to pay or not  pay for fire department coverage and if you don't, they will come out to protect your neighbors and stand around to watch yours burn.

So, yes, police and fire are considered socialism or at least statism by a good number of people.

Statism --> a political system in which the state has substantial centralized control over social and economic affairs.

Socialism --> a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, Distribution, And exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

The only difference here is the word "Community". In real application, The Community must defer to either a Government (the State) or The Church (any religion). Even with people voting, And having an impact. The fact there is a government pushing forward === statism. Sure, Maybe in an application of socialism through a Church is techinically not statism. . . However, In countries where the Church is the state. . Its still statism.

https://www.debate.org/opinions/is-statism-socialism

[Yankguy1]

Tax money paying a portion of local services is not socialism.  I'll  put this in the "Red likes it, it's not socialism" category
 
Still waiting for another definition.

Another definition of what?

Red "debating" posture number 1: feigning ignorance of the topic at hand.

Don't ever change.

[bambu.]

Social Conservatism is the best system.
GOP America party doesn't seem to understand.
Part of the reason they lost the election.

[luee]

The elite liberal takeover. Sorry, all negative. Rising gas prices and unemployment. Petty revenge?

---Biden Order Blocks Keystone XL Pipeline

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has said the pipeline was a key priority for him. The province of Alberta, which is an investor in the project, has said it will work with the company to pursue legal remedies.----


https://www.npr.org/sections/inauguration-day-live-updates/2021/01/20/958823085/biden-order-blocks-keystone-xl-pipeline

Keystone has no influence on gas prices, but plenty of influence on the lands it was going through and intended to go through.

Using a worst possible scenario to block progress. Less supply equals higher prices, what don't you understand? Look at your gas pump prices now. Mentioned to me by a driver for a living. Yes some obscure Indian tribe is ticked off about a two hundred year old treaty. Liberal elites to the rescue. Oil seepage, LOL.

[REDSTATEWARD]

LOL!!!!  I’ve got plenty of money, I can pay for my own protection. Why should I pay for anybody else’s? Socialism!!!! LOL!!!!

Do you ever think about things? LOL!!!!

Shockingly enough, there are many types of libertarianism.

And some of them are opposed to community police and fire departments. We have counties in the US where you have the choice to pay or not  pay for fire department coverage and if you don't, they will come out to protect your neighbors and stand around to watch yours burn.

So, yes, police and fire are considered socialism or at least statism by a good number of people.

Statism --> a political system in which the state has substantial centralized control over social and economic affairs.

Socialism --> a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, Distribution, And exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

The only difference here is the word "Community". In real application, The Community must defer to either a Government (the State) or The Church (any religion). Even with people voting, And having an impact. The fact there is a government pushing forward === statism. Sure, Maybe in an application of socialism through a Church is techinically not statism. . . However, In countries where the Church is the state. . Its still statism.

https://www.debate.org/opinions/is-statism-socialism

Boy.
That sure was enlightening.
Here is a hint to Josh’s naïveté.
A community encompasses a government.
In a democracy the citizenry consent to be governed and elect the governors.