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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[Hamilton Samuels]

WASHINGTON—The House narrowly passed a measure Tuesday approving a $3.5 trillion budget blueprint and locking in a late September vote on a roughly $1 trillion infrastructure bill, ending a standoff between a group of centrist Democrats and their leaders over the party’s legislative agenda.

The final agreement, approved in a 220-212 vote, kept Democrats moving forward with President Biden’s legislative ambitions and defused the latest flare-up with the party’s centrist wing. It also marked a shift in party leaders’ strategy to tie together the votes on the infrastructure and budget bills, which could now come up weeks apart in the House, potentially diminishing liberals’ leverage in the coming negotiations.

The budget framework’s passage in the House officially unlocks a process that will allow Democrats to pass a sprawling package of healthcare, education and climate provisions in the Senate without GOP support, so long as they retain the support of all 50 senators in the Democratic caucus. The Senate passed the same budget blueprint earlier this month, and lawmakers are already working on drafting detailed legislation.

‘When we bring up the bill, we will have the votes.’— House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
The deal in the House completed Tuesday reflected some concessions from both House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) and the group of 10 centrist Democrats. The centrists had balked at approving the budget framework and called for the House to vote immediately on the infrastructure bill, which has already passed the Senate. Mrs. Pelosi avoided an embarrassing defeat on the House floor that could have snarled Mr. Biden’s agenda. Democratic leaders can afford no more than three defections on bills opposed by all Republicans.

Although the centrists didn’t secure an immediate vote on the infrastructure bill, they did pin down a deadline approaching rapidly enough that it could mean the House votes on infrastructure weeks before the $3.5 trillion budget package is ready. Mrs. Pelosi had previously stated that the House wouldn’t vote on infrastructure until the healthcare and education package had passed the Senate.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/house-democratic-leaders-move-to-get-centrists-on-board-ahead-of-key-vote-11629820709?mod=hp_lead_pos1



Good win for the mature Democrats in the party.

[facilitatorn]

If people want to make a case for trimming or rerouting particular items in this package, they can do it through appropriate committees under regular order.

It’s nice to see government start to work again despite republicans’ constant homicidal shenanigans and clear felony level crimes. 

[luee]

Should have left after OBL was caught. No more troops to die or be maimed over "nation building" for violent primitives.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/24/crypto-lobbyists-house-tax-rule-infrastructure-506756

Thank God, the will of the American people, and the free and fair elections that Democrats control the gavels in Congress.

[REDSTATEWARD]

How many trillions will the Taliban extort from us to provide Americans tickets home?
The total may rival Nancy’s  Infrastrucure cluster fuck.
But the payoff will be real and our people will live even though Biden will have to explain paying ransom for hostages.
With Infastructure the whole outcome is hyper  inflation and everlasting pain for our kids.

[facilitatorn]

You provide everlasting pain for your kids, Red. Everything else pales in proportion.

Nice misread of the situation, assmouth pottyface.

Miss, wide right.

[LarryBnDC]

How many trillions will the Taliban extort from us to provide Americans tickets home?
The total may rival Nancy’s  Infrastrucure cluster fuck.
But the payoff will be real and our people will live even though Biden will have to explain paying ransom for hostages.
With Infastructure the whole outcome is hyper  inflation and everlasting pain for our kids.

Comedy gold!

[LarryBnDC]

WASHINGTON—The House narrowly passed a measure Tuesday approving a $3.5 trillion budget blueprint and locking in a late September vote on a roughly $1 trillion infrastructure bill, ending a standoff between a group of centrist Democrats and their leaders over the party’s legislative agenda.

The final agreement, approved in a 220-212 vote, kept Democrats moving forward with President Biden’s legislative ambitions and defused the latest flare-up with the party’s centrist wing. It also marked a shift in party leaders’ strategy to tie together the votes on the infrastructure and budget bills, which could now come up weeks apart in the House, potentially diminishing liberals’ leverage in the coming negotiations.

The budget framework’s passage in the House officially unlocks a process that will allow Democrats to pass a sprawling package of healthcare, education and climate provisions in the Senate without GOP support, so long as they retain the support of all 50 senators in the Democratic caucus. The Senate passed the same budget blueprint earlier this month, and lawmakers are already working on drafting detailed legislation.

‘When we bring up the bill, we will have the votes.’— House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
The deal in the House completed Tuesday reflected some concessions from both House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) and the group of 10 centrist Democrats. The centrists had balked at approving the budget framework and called for the House to vote immediately on the infrastructure bill, which has already passed the Senate. Mrs. Pelosi avoided an embarrassing defeat on the House floor that could have snarled Mr. Biden’s agenda. Democratic leaders can afford no more than three defections on bills opposed by all Republicans.

Although the centrists didn’t secure an immediate vote on the infrastructure bill, they did pin down a deadline approaching rapidly enough that it could mean the House votes on infrastructure weeks before the $3.5 trillion budget package is ready. Mrs. Pelosi had previously stated that the House wouldn’t vote on infrastructure until the healthcare and education package had passed the Senate.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/house-democratic-leaders-move-to-get-centrists-on-board-ahead-of-key-vote-11629820709?mod=hp_lead_pos1



Good win for the mature Democrats in the party.

You gotta know when to hold them
Know when to fold them...


The Sabotage Squad is still at it. As of early Tuesday morning, the nine conservative House Democrats working to derail the strategy that’s essential to passing President Biden’s agenda are still threatening to oppose a procedural vote that’s key to making that strategy work.
But their latest moves have left them increasingly isolated. And this illustrates not only the profound folly of their position, but some important larger dynamics animating the House Democratic caucus, and the party more broadly, as they seek to pass the most ambitious domestic agenda undertaken in decades.

But Wild has come to see why the two-track strategy is essential. As of now, the infrastructure bill alone won’t pass the House, Wild noted, because many progressives would vote against it.
Only under the two-track strategy can both bills pass, because it allows each faction to exert leverage over the other: Progressives will back the infrastructure bill to get moderates and conservatives to support a robust reconciliation package, and vice versa.
Wild told me that the Gottheimer group should accept that the infrastructure bill can’t pass alone. This means voting to move the reconciliation blueprint forward now, and accepting postponement of the vote on the infrastructure bill.

The US Chamber of Commerce caucus had to fold this afternoon.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/08/24/susan-wild-josh-gottheimer-house-democrats-infrastructure/

[LarryBnDC]

This a BIG FUCKNG DEAL!

Joe Biden is still GOING BIG!


Nancy Pelosi is a BOSS!

[bankshot1]

Biden could always order a month or so of fireworks in Afghanistan, bill it as a month of shock and awe and fuck you and bomb that 7th century shit hole back a few more centuries.

Or the Taliban could understand that they should take the win even if it takes a few more weeks, and maybe they can score some good seats for WFT games or concerts at the Kennedy Center.   

[facilitatorn]

How many trillions will the Taliban extort from us to provide Americans tickets home?
The total may rival Nancy’s  Infrastrucure cluster fuck.
But the payoff will be real and our people will live even though Biden will have to explain paying ransom for hostages.
With Infastructure the whole outcome is hyper  inflation and everlasting pain for our kids.

Comedy gold!

Like most all of Redcoat-brownshirt’s pet theories.

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/24/2047935/-The-data-is-still-clear-Hurting-the-unemployed-doesn-t-help-them-get-jobs

[Holly Martins]

Never been clear how a country that's a poorly conceived patchwork of about five distinct countries who don't like each other is worth soaking American taxpayers for two trillion dollars because of terrorists who can melt across remote borders whenever things get sticky.   

I'm sure there's a humdinger of a reason!

[facilitatorn]

http://www.vice.com/en/article/88n395/a-black-veteran-was-having-a-ptsd-episode-cops-shot-and-killed-him

Cops need help and much simpler job descriptions.

[Holly Martins]

A contagious fast-spreading virus that makes all forms of gunpowder turn to jelly.   
Everyone reduced to compressed-air bb guns or,  if it's enforceable, pointed sticks.   The right to bear sticks shall not be abridged.   Maybe SWAT teams could have gas and crossbows.  Remember, "arms" isn't really specified in the old 2A. 

A good man with a narwhal tusk...

[josh]