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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[josh]

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/9/29/2055116/-Josh-Marshall-says-Kill-the-Bill

Time to open ethics and campaign finance investigations into Manchin and Sinema with the understanding that if they suddenly and unreservedly get on the right side of history the dogs may be called off.

This is the best approach to achieve the best result and enact laws that address the pressing needs of the American people.

I thought the sequel, Kill the Bill II, was better.

[Hamilton Samuels]

 https://news.yahoo.com/democratic-rep-knocks-park-response-081655941.html

 Republicans beat Democrats 13-12 in the annual Congressional Baseball Game at Nationals Park on Wednesday.

And Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) mocked the GOP victory with some familiar turns of phrase, jokingly contesting the result with language similar to that used by former President Donald Trump and his enablers to question the 2020 election.


I don't care if the scoreboard said Republicans 13, Democrats 12. Democrats won!  The Republicans stole the game! I demand a recount! I want an audit!  Democrats must introduce new rules to make it more difficult for Republicans to hit, run, score, and catch the ball for outs.
 

[Holly Martins]

You think the critique is a valid one? Seriously?

I think the conceptual distance between wokeness (in its actual meaning) and telling women how to style their hair is vast.   This is all just bored people combing over pop culture to find something to get worked up about.  Gnat fart in a wind tunnel.

People getting upset about Roald Dahls overt anti-Semitism (I looked it up,  yeah thats genyou-wine .50 caliber full throttle Jew hatin garbage for sure) is one thing.   Hairdos is another.   

[kidcarter8]

[freedom to die of polio meme]

I think we could make this point a billion times and it would have zero impact on the anti-vax mindset.   They still think,  in spite of all evidence,  that its just flu.

Who are you arguing with?

[facilitatorn]

Leftists like to use language instead of reason to "win". This is why the demonization of Manchin and Sinema is taking place. They can't rationally argue that the country should take on an excessive amount of debt especially when one drills down into the infrastructure bill, so instead they're choosing to deceive the public they say they serve.

So fucked up.

Liberal lawmakers and activists are becoming more unified in their attempt to redefine the language on their terms, hoping that the public will see the outliers as more on the conservative side of the party, rather than in the middle of it.



https://thehill.com/homenews/house/574399-progressive-democrats-seek-to-purge-the-term-moderate

The left hates the police, but they love to police language---it's what they call progress.

Raise enough revenue in the final versions and the bills can actually shrink our debt load while growing our economy and improving our quality of life

American debt comes from from theft by the right not investment by the left

Seeing wankers argue for letting the country rot out from under us from fear of an imaginary debt bomb is like watching a diabetic chase fistfuls of red velvet cake with mighty swigs from a handle of Southern Comfort.

You do not know what is good for you Utley

Until you learn your decline and fall will only accelerate.

[kidcarter8]

I'm just a girl who can't say noem....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/kristi-noem-affair-allegations-lewandowski/2021/09/29/859ad8da-2154-11ec-9309-b743b79abc59_story.html

This,  plus her recent shenanigan with her daughters real estate appraiser licensing, is increasing the odds she goes back to the farm after her goobernatorial service is finished.

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[Holly Martins]

Leftists like to use language instead of reason to "win". This is why the demonization of Manchin and Sinema is taking place. They can't rationally argue that the country should take on an excessive amount of debt

Skipping over your Left bete-noire, I will point out that no version of the social infrastructure bill calls for deficit spending.  Neither you nor Ward nor Kid has posted one jot of evidence it does because none of you have found any.   Simply returning corporate tax to pretrump levels is revenue neutral so far as the Treasury is concerned.
The bill is ALREADY a love letter to moderates. 

[facilitatorn]

Kid wants us to raise the profile of all the terrible Noem dirt so far recorded by googling up and posting links to reports of her misdeeds

I think this is one of his best ideas in decades.

[Holly Martins]

[freedom to die of polio meme]

I think we could make this point a billion times and it would have zero impact on the anti-vax mindset.   They still think,  in spite of all evidence,  that its just flu.

Who are you arguing with?

My wild guess is the "freedom" not to vax crowd.  Thanks for,  in a very pertinent example,  proving his point about zero impact.   

[FlyingVProd]

Education is the answer for the USA, and 2 years of free college is a great start. Then the people who rise to the top need to be given free scholarships so that they can go on to be doctors, etc.

Our neighborhoods need to have more colleges, and fewer prisons. We need more professors and fewer prison guards.

We need to think like the Greeks, and we need to be thinkers, and star gazers, and we need theatre, etc.

And we need to have Wellness Centers, with crisis intervention specialists.

Salute,

Tony V.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Leftists like to use language instead of reason to "win". This is why the demonization of Manchin and Sinema is taking place. They can't rationally argue that the country should take on an excessive amount of debt

Skipping over your Left bete-noire, I will point out that no version of the social infrastructure bill calls for deficit spending.  Neither you nor Ward nor Kid has posted one jot of evidence it does because none of you have found any.   Simply returning corporate tax to pretrump levels is revenue neutral so far as the Treasury is concerned.
The bill is ALREADY a love letter to moderates.

What, for example, is the cost of the Child Tax Credit increase and how is it paid for?

[josh]

[freedom to die of polio meme]

I think we could make this point a billion times and it would have zero impact on the anti-vax mindset.   They still think,  in spite of all evidence,  that its just flu.

Who are you arguing with?

He's not arguing with anybody.

He is pointing out to me how much of a waste of time it is to post such things to folks with an anti-vax mindset.

He is almost totally right. Or maybe totally.

And that gap is half of why I post them.

[Yankguy1]

Leftists like to use language instead of reason to "win". This is why the demonization of Manchin and Sinema is taking place. They can't rationally argue that the country should take on an excessive amount of debt

Skipping over your Left bete-noire, I will point out that no version of the social infrastructure bill calls for deficit spending.  Neither you nor Ward nor Kid has posted one jot of evidence it does because none of you have found any.   Simply returning corporate tax to pretrump levels is revenue neutral so far as the Treasury is concerned.
The bill is ALREADY a love letter to moderates.

What, for example, is the cost of the Child Tax Credit increase and how is it paid for?

Red is VERY concerned about the deficit.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Leftists like to use language instead of reason to "win". This is why the demonization of Manchin and Sinema is taking place. They can't rationally argue that the country should take on an excessive amount of debt

Skipping over your Left bete-noire, I will point out that no version of the social infrastructure bill calls for deficit spending.  Neither you nor Ward nor Kid has posted one jot of evidence it does because none of you have found any.   Simply returning corporate tax to pretrump levels is revenue neutral so far as the Treasury is concerned.
The bill is ALREADY a love letter to moderates.

What, for example, is the cost of the Child Tax Credit increase and how is it paid for?

Red is VERY concerned about the deficit.

Obviously you are also clueless as to what is in the bill.

[kidcarter8]

Leftists like to use language instead of reason to "win". This is why the demonization of Manchin and Sinema is taking place. They can't rationally argue that the country should take on an excessive amount of debt

Skipping over your Left bete-noire, I will point out that no version of the social infrastructure bill calls for deficit spending.  Neither you nor Ward nor Kid has posted one jot of evidence it does because none of you have found any.   Simply returning corporate tax to pretrump levels is revenue neutral so far as the Treasury is concerned.
The bill is ALREADY a love letter to moderates.

What, for example, is the cost of the Child Tax Credit increase and how is it paid for?

AOC wore it on her dress