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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[facilitatorn]

Waiting for Luee to tell us how John, the wise and popular king, used his persuasion and good arguments to win the nobles over to his side so they would sign it.

[facilitatorn]

Republican problems,

http://www.vice.com/en/article/3akvbw/why-do-neo-nazis-keep-getting-arrested-for-child-porn

[luee]

The power of the purse, evil John needed tax money. So he gave away some of his oppressive power. Ended up becoming the framework for a modern democracy. Kiss.

[Oilcandide]

Scholars have also linked the emergence of representative government to Europes relative political fragmentation. Political scientist David Stasavage links the fragmentation of Europe, and its subsequent democratization, to the manner in which the Roman Empire collapsed. Roman territory was conquered by small fragmented groups of Germanic tribes, thus leading to the creation of small political units where rulers were relatively weak and needed the consent of the governed to ward off foreign threats....

https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/10.1146/annurev-polisci-043014-105648

Britain was part of the evolution, not the primary engine of it, Luee. 

[facilitatorn]

He also forgot the point of the sword bit, but we never expect much from Luee. His real estate acumen is equally unimpressive.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/7/22/2182738/-When-They-Tried-That-In-A-Small-Town

[luee]

The brit evolving governments were the only ones that endured. The rest gave power to any cult leader that rose to power.

[Hairy Lime]

The brit evolving governments were the only ones that endured. The rest gave power to any cult leader that rose to power.

The Althing. The reason you think British governments are the only ones that endured is because you have no knowledge of or respect for the culture or accomplishments of any other culture.

[facilitatorn]

Luee is one of our top Dunning-Kruger case studies.

On the one hand you hope he can get better on the other you are morbidly curious to see just how far he can go.

[luee]

The US evolved out of the brit system. Led to the constitution and D of independence. Other euros worshipped Muss., Hitler, and Stalin. Older Nap. Kaiaer, Czar etc. Attempting to keep it simple so as not to strain delicate membranes.

[Oilcandide]

Baron Montesquieu, Voltaire, and Jean-Jacques Rousseau were British?  Who knew?

Also, you might want to find a summary, Luee, of the Federalist Papers which set out why we rejected a parliamentary system like Britain's (and ixnay on the "benign momarch" thing, too).

The framers of the US constitution wanted divided sovereignty. They wanted a separation of powers in which some powers of governance went to the executive branch, some to the legislative branch, and some to the judicial branch.
They most definitely were not interested in evolving from the British system, with its concentration of power in a single branch. 

[Espnthree]

The framers of the US constitution wanted divided sovereignty. They wanted a separation of powers in which some powers of governance went to the executive branch, some to the legislative branch, and some to the judicial branch.
They most definitely were not interested in evolving from the British system, with its concentration of power in a single branch.

It is this part that Biden never understood.
Fortunately Biden has been prevented from assuming Emperor status by the Courts, like the founders intended. 

[luee]

https://constitutingamerica.org/90day-dcin-magna-carta-influence-on-declaration-of-independence-and-us-constitution-guest-essayist-george-landrith/

[luee]

Nothing before like the magna carta. Evolved into the modern enduring democracy. Parliment into both houses of congress. Founding fathers tossed away royalty and the devine right of kings.

[Yankguy1]

I would hope that somebody as learned in history as Luee would know there is no