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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[Yankguy1]

That's more than one person's opinion and if your research "skills" are so great that you could find that, you could find the opinions of many more people who believe the same thing.  And to buttress your obvious opinion that he didn't. 

[jmmengel]

That's more than one person's opinion and if your research "skills" are so great that you could find that, you could find the opinions of many more people who believe the same thing.  And to buttress your obvious opinion that he didn't.

Then why did not you cite them? Why lift a nearly year old OPINION piece without citing the source! I remind you that using an opinion without credit is intellectual dishonesty.
Bibi was under heavy second guessing in Israel in early October, 2023.
Not so today. 
Why is that?

[Yankguy1]

You are correct.  I should have identified articles by people having the same opinions as I do.  See, that's not hard. 

[jmmengel]

You

Oh, sorry to bother you before you took your meds.

[Yankguy1]

I corrected. 

[jmmengel]

You are correct.  I should have identified articles by people having the same opinions as I do.  See, that's not hard.

Well it must be for you.

[bambu.]

Netanyahu propped up Hamas for years and it blew up in his face.  I do not believe heroic is the term for that. More importantly, neither do a substantial amount of Isrselis.

Maybe he was conned by Hamas, who knows.

That was then, this is now.
Now, he doing the right thing.

[Yankguy1]

Yeah. He was conned by them.

[jmmengel]

Yeah. He was conned by them.

what the hell is your point?

[Yankguy1]

Since no matter what I say will be met with one of your devastating "so you have no point" ripostes, I'll just direct you to the articles and opinion pieces you took time out of your busy day (no doubt coming up with devastating ripostes)  to research. 

[jmmengel]

Since no matter what I say will be met with one of your devastating "so you have no point" ripostes, I'll just direct you to the articles and opinion pieces you took time out of your busy day (no doubt coming up with devastating ripostes)  to research.

if you had a point you failed.
Especially if all you have are opinion pieces.
Everyone has those.
It is facts you lack.
Start with October 7

[Yankguy1]

The facts are these: it did not start on October 7th. Israel funded Hamas through Qatar. Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th. The opinion  is why Israel funded Hamas.

[LarryB!]

Balanced view of how both Biden and Trump have inflationary policies. 

Joe is the one with the 3/12 year current record of controlling inflation and the nation knows he sucks at it.
One of the hardest hit demographics is Blacks.
Hence he is rifling through his deck of race cards to play every one he can.

Joe Manchin was the culprit when it came to hurting the demographics that include Black People

[facilitatorn]

It is well documented and well known by people who follow events in the Middle East. You, rotting from your venereal disease in Florida, do not seem very well informed on the topic.

[LarryB!]

That's more than one person's opinion and if your research "skills" are so great that you could find that, you could find the opinions of many more people who believe the same thing.  And to buttress your obvious opinion that he didn't.

Then why did not you cite them? Why lift a nearly year old OPINION piece without citing the source! I remind you that using an opinion without credit is intellectual dishonesty.
Bibi was under heavy second guessing in Israel in early October, 2023.
Not so today. 
Why is that?

More recent REPORTING

The payments were part of a string of decisions by Israeli political leaders, military officers and intelligence officials - all based on the fundamentally flawed assessment that Hamas was neither interested in nor capable of a large-scale attack. The Times has previously reported on intelligence failures and other faulty assumptions that preceded the attacks.

Even as the Israeli military obtained battle plans for a Hamas invasion and analysts observed significant terrorism exercises just over the border in Gaza, the payments continued. For years, Israeli intelligence officers even escorted a Qatari official into Gaza, where he doled out money from suitcases filled with millions of dollars.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html?unlocked_article_code=1.w00.wTip.lsRKTt-ME9tc&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&u2g=c&sgrp=c-cb


REPORTING from yesterday

A huge demonstration in Israel on Saturday night, led by families of hostages held by Hamas, urged the government to act now. Mediators the U.S., Egypt and Qatar pressed Israel and Hamas, saying the proposed deal offers a road map for a permanent cease-fire and ending the crisis and gives immediate relief to both hostages and Gaza residents.

But far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich and Minister of National Security Itamar Ben Gvir said they would break up the government if it takes the deal. That could expose Netanyahu to new elections, scrutiny over security failures that led to the war and-if he loses the prime minister post-prosecution on longstanding corruption charges.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-news-01-06-2024-8c06dda3a8e20491b5a34377c60bb827