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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[Oilcandide]

  Traditionally, the Senate filibuster was reserved for only the most controversial issues, but its use has escalated in recent years, often slowing business in the chamber to a halt. Some lawmakers acknowledge that the filibuster, which has effectively set a 60-vote supermajority requirement for passing legislation in the Senate, could doom many of the proposals they have championed, including meaningful reforms on issues ranging from health care to climate change to gun control. Behind this dysfunction, the filibuster also has a troubling legacy - it has often been used to block civil rights legislation intended to combat racial discrimination.   

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/filibuster-explained

Go, Kammie!

[Hairy Lime]

People like RedDick treat a procedural rule like a Constitutional mandate. If we retain it, we should force them to actually do it. Actually spend days holding the floor. Maybe it can revert to a tool rarely used for things that matter most.

[jmmengel]

  Traditionally, the Senate filibuster was reserved for only the most controversial issues, but its use has escalated in recent years, often slowing business in the chamber to a halt. Some lawmakers acknowledge that the filibuster, which has effectively set a 60-vote supermajority requirement for passing legislation in the Senate, could doom many of the proposals they have championed, including meaningful reforms on issues ranging from health care to climate change to gun control. Behind this dysfunction, the filibuster also has a troubling legacy - it has often been used to block civil rights legislation intended to combat racial discrimination.   

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/filibuster-explained

Go, Kammie!

As always the guiding principle of ending the filibuster comes from those who did not get legislation they wanted.
Consider the Biden Build Back America bill that Joe Manchin gallantly filibustered into the Reduce Inflation Act, still a bad bill but not the disaster it could have been.
The Filibuster is the essence of democracy, it keeps debate and compromise alive to produce compromise and better legislation.  Without it every special interest group will cobble together 50 Senate votes only to see the other party do the same to repeal it once they get the majority.

[Oilcandide]

   GALLANTLY!   

[Oilcandide]

Without it every special interest group will cobble together 50 Senate votes only to see the other party do the same to repeal it once they get the majority.

Unless the American people happen to like the bill and benefit from it.  Congress creatures like to get reelected. 

[luee]

Fillibuster seems to me to be a 19th century practice that has no place in the fast paced 21st century when immediacy is required. What is the argument for?

[luee]

---Macklemore declares 'F--- America' to cheers at Seattle concert benefiting UN agency with alleged Hamas ties---

Never a fan, will not miss him if he is deported to Iran.

[facilitatorn]

Fillibuster seems to me to be a 19th century practice that has no place in the fast paced 21st century when immediacy is required. What is the argument for?

You are correct. It should be ended along with the electoral college.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.salon.com/2024/09/25/donald-and-bernie-moreno-rage-at-crazy-female-refuse-to-fall-in-line/

[jmmengel]

Without it every special interest group will cobble together 50 Senate votes only to see the other party do the same to repeal it once they get the majority.

Unless the American people happen to like the bill and benefit from it.  Congress creatures like to get reelected.

If that is the case there would be no problem getting 60 votes.

[facilitatorn]

Without it every special interest group will cobble together 50 Senate votes only to see the other party do the same to repeal it once they get the majority.

Unless the American people happen to like the bill and benefit from it.  Congress creatures like to get reelected.

If that is the case there would be no problem getting 60 votes.

Bribery and blackmail are how dumbfuck right wingers stop 60 senate votes making bills the American people like and would benefit from become law.

End the filibuster or the republican party. One or the other has gotta go.

[jmmengel]

   GALLANTLY!   

Good to see you using a dictionary.

[LarryBnDC]

  Traditionally, the Senate filibuster was reserved for only the most controversial issues, but its use has escalated in recent years, often slowing business in the chamber to a halt. Some lawmakers acknowledge that the filibuster, which has effectively set a 60-vote supermajority requirement for passing legislation in the Senate, could doom many of the proposals they have championed, including meaningful reforms on issues ranging from health care to climate change to gun control. Behind this dysfunction, the filibuster also has a troubling legacy - it has often been used to block civil rights legislation intended to combat racial discrimination.   

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/filibuster-explained

Go, Kammie!

As always the guiding principle of ending the filibuster comes from those who did not get legislation they wanted.
Consider the Biden Build Back America bill that Joe Manchin gallantly filibustered into the Reduce Inflation Act still a bad bill but not the disaster it could have been.
The Filibuster is the essence of democracy, it keeps debate and compromise alive to produce compromise and better legislation.  Without it every special interest group will cobble together 50 Senate votes only to see the other party do the same to repeal it once they get the majority.

Do you really know what the fuck you are talking about?

Build Back Better was watered down to the Inflation Reduction Act by the guy who represents one of the most backward states in the Union, a state that would have directly benefited from the BBB act in transitioning from a dying coal industry and recovering from environmental vandalism. However, that guy, who drives his Maserati from the Hill to his luxury yacht in the Washington Marina, makes his millions from coal.


Manchin also insisted on expiration of the Child Tax Credit, (which had lifted millions of children out of poverty), thereby plunging millions of children back into poverty.

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-poverty-west-virginia-joe-manchin-86da79b1a683de87c4a45c90c96cab52

FUCK THAT GUY!

[LarryBnDC]

Without it every special interest group will cobble together 50 Senate votes only to see the other party do the same to repeal it once they get the majority.

Unless the American people happen to like the bill and benefit from it.  Congress creatures like to get reelected.

If that is the case there would be no problem getting 60 votes.

Bribery and blackmail are how dumbfuck right wingers stop 60 senate votes making bills the American people like and would benefit from become law.

End the filibuster or the republican party. One or the other has gotta go.

They both need to go.

[facilitatorn]

Without it every special interest group will cobble together 50 Senate votes only to see the other party do the same to repeal it once they get the majority.

Unless the American people happen to like the bill and benefit from it.  Congress creatures like to get reelected.

If that is the case there would be no problem getting 60 votes.

Bribery and blackmail are how dumbfuck right wingers stop 60 senate votes making bills the American people like and would benefit from become law.

End the filibuster or the republican party. One or the other has gotta go.

They both need to go.