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bankshot1

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Re: American League
« Reply #615 on: October 06, 2018, 09:06:29 PM »

could have used him to kill some inning tonight.

David Price came up HUUUUUUGE once again in the post-season.

He sucked something fierce tonight.
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Re: American League
« Reply #616 on: October 06, 2018, 09:31:54 PM »

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Re: American League
« Reply #617 on: October 06, 2018, 11:47:07 PM »

GLS . Begin.
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« Reply #618 on: October 06, 2018, 11:57:25 PM »

That was a whole lot less enjoyable (or heart attack inducing) than last night's game.

I guarantee we will not lose tomorrow.
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« Reply #619 on: October 06, 2018, 11:58:47 PM »

GLS . Begin.

B.O.S. began a long time ago and is never ending.

Nobody blames Cora for Price's start or for the 3 run homer later in the game. But believe (or make up, I suppose) what you will. You always do.
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Re: American League
« Reply #620 on: October 07, 2018, 12:04:40 AM »

No second guessing tonight.

Price spit the bit and Tanaka didn't.

Yankees crushed the ball

Sox didn't.

Series 1-1.

Troll-That you still don't understand why baseball fans 2nd guess managerial mistakes, as in Grady Little's fuck-up in '03, is a gaping hole in your knowledge. 

That you label fans talking about a team's weakness, as "GLS" when for example the Sox bullpen was discussed several months ago, is fine, its stupid, and adds nothing to the conversation, but you seldom have anything of value to the conversation.

SSDD
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Re: American League
« Reply #621 on: October 07, 2018, 08:00:22 PM »

Pedro had every right to be in that game, but maybe Grady should have let Martinez take himself out - and risk his legacy that way.

heh

Price was hooked quickly - as was Happ - sign of the times.
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Re: American League
« Reply #622 on: October 07, 2018, 09:24:46 PM »

Pedro had every right to be in that game, but maybe Grady should have let Martinez take himself out - and risk his legacy that way.

heh

Price was hooked quickly - as was Happ - sign of the times.

Price was getting killed last night, and Cora acted correctly to try and limit the damage. I've no problem with his decison. Joe Kelly kept them in the game.

And we've discussed Pedro endlessly.

A simple Google search of worst baseball managerial moves ever places Grady's fuck-up among the worst ever.

That you don't understand this is understandable.

Pedro had pitched 7 innings, and after a difficult 7th inning should have been pulled.

He shouid have been on the shortest of short leashs, but Grady left him in for 5 batters, the last four all hitting safely, a single and 3 doubles, tied game.

It was insane, only compounded by the fact the Sox had a pretty decent BP to protect the 3-run lead and get those final 6 outs.

Pedro's legacy is safe from Grady's managerial miscarriage, Grady's was not.

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Re: American League
« Reply #623 on: October 08, 2018, 10:06:55 AM »

When the great are tasked to BE GREAT and it doesnt work out............ kill the manager/coach.

Its sports.  Pedro gave it up that day.  Makes him no less the hero.  Could just have easily have NOT gotten beat.

Now - about McMamara pulling Schiraldi........
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« Reply #624 on: October 08, 2018, 10:18:04 AM »

When the great are tasked to BE GREAT and it doesnt work out............ kill the manager/coach.

Its sports.  Pedro gave it up that day.  Makes him no less the hero.  Could just have easily have NOT gotten beat.

Now - about McMamara pulling Schiraldi........

Kid

Sometimes being contrarian is smart.

Sometimes its just plain stupid.

Pedro was spent in the 7th, giving up a HR, single, single, before ending the inning with a K.

He did his job, the tank was about on E, but he had a 5-2 lead.

But Little, despite having a tested BP ready, put Pedro in a position to fail by putting him out there again in the 8th.

And he gave up 4 hits to 5 batters in the 8th, including 3 doubles.

So to sum up, the last 9 hittters Pedro faced in the 7th and 8th went 7 for 9 off him.

Your fact-free defense of Little is almost uniquely contrarian,  and plainly on its face, stupid.

But you are free to believe whatever you like.
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Re: American League
« Reply #625 on: October 08, 2018, 10:32:14 AM »

I stay with my ace at 5-2.  Into the NINTH - you have a case - but not with six outs left - and like with the 1986 Buckner situation - Red Sox fans' SURETY that we'd have won had Pedro been removed - is irrational.

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« Reply #626 on: October 08, 2018, 10:43:33 AM »

I stay with my ace at 5-2.  Into the NINTH - you have a case - but not with six outs left - and like with the 1986 Buckner situation - Red Sox fans' SURETY that we'd have won had Pedro been removed - is irrational.

Timlin and Williamson were ready and they did their jobs in that series.

Pedro stuggled to get out of the 7th but he did.

He was done. Tank was empty.

And everyone but Little seemed to get it.

But Little asked him for more when he had Tmlin and Williamson ready to go.

Ok, short leash time for Pedro, but 5 batters, the last 4 getting hits off him?

Thats just fucking crazy.


Like i said Google "worst manager decision" and while you're at it, google the definition of insanity.

Believe what you want.
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Re: American League
« Reply #627 on: October 08, 2018, 10:56:28 AM »

Red Sox hitters will tell you they should have scored more than 1 run in innings 5-11 vs the likes of Mussina, Heredia, Nelson, Wells and a (supposedly) tiring Rivera.   And one really has to wonder - what the hell was Mariano doing in there up to 48 pitches?

heh
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Re: American League
« Reply #628 on: October 08, 2018, 11:08:21 AM »

Rivera had only twice as a closer gone over 30 pitches in a postseason game (31, 32)....
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Re: American League
« Reply #629 on: October 08, 2018, 11:17:56 AM »

Red Sox hitters will tell you they should have scored more than 1 run in innings 5-11 vs the likes of Mussina, Heredia, Nelson, Wells and a (supposedly) tiring Rivera.   And one really has to wonder - what the hell was Mariano doing in there up to 48 pitches?

heh

All irrelvant if Grady did his job

Sox win probablity at the end of the 7th was 91%

if Grady used his BP, 9 out of 10 times, he wins the game, leading 5-2 after 7.
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