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Russia will gain eastern Ukraine territories and hold them, as it has Crimea

5 (45.5%)

Russia will temporarily gain eastern Ukraine territories before being forced out of them

2 (18.2%)

Efforts to confront the Russian forces and get them out of Ukraine will lead to Putin's escalating and attacking NATO countries directly with missiles or other destructive measures

0 (0%)

The NATO/World response will be so mild that Putin will go ahead and take the rest of Ukraine

3 (27.3%)

Today Ukraine, tomorrow Moldova and who knows where else

1 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: March 01, 2022, 01:18:43 PM

[facilitatorn]

Take down one Moscow parroting media outlet a day until the last Russian thug is out of Ukraine. Start with Fox.

[bambu.]

When Putin is finished with Ukraine...maybe someone can explain to me how the US is beating Putin in Ukraine atm...Poland will be next, you watch...because Putin knows no one will go to full-on war with Russia.

Care to make a wager on that, Bambu?

No  wager.
But every night when I watch my tv news I don't see the US beating Russia in Ukraine, all I see is more destruction from Russian bombs/missiles, more dead Ukrainian civilians being buried having been tortured and murdered, and Ukrainians leaving on buses before the Russians get there.
Russia has free rein in the sky over Ukraine, and will obviously just keep bombing the whole country until there's nothing left and no people left alive.

You believe US/NATO will go full-on into war with Russia if it invades Poland the same way it has Ukraine?

[LarryBnDC]

The latest package shows that the assistance for Ukraine is evolving after weeks of fighting, as the United States and its partners learn more about Moscows assault tactics and Kyivs capabilities. The Pentagon said it has committed more than $1.6 billion in security assistance since Russias invasion.




https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/02/pentagon-300-million-ukraine-aid/

Bravo, US as well

But we knew this.  A total no briner.

What else can be done?

We can vote all the Putin loving Republicans out of office...

[LarryBnDC]

When Putin is finished with Ukraine...maybe someone can explain to me how the US is beating Putin in Ukraine atm...Poland will be next, you watch...because Putin knows no one will go to full-on war with Russia.

Care to make a wager on that, Bambu?

No  wager.
But every night when I watch my tv news I don't see the US beating Russia in Ukraine, all I see is more destruction from Russian bombs/missiles, more dead Ukrainian civilians being buried having been tortured and murdered, and Ukrainians leaving on buses before the Russians get there.
Russia has free rein in the sky over Ukraine, and will obviously just keep bombing the whole country until there's nothing left and no people left alive.

You believe US/NATO will go full-on into war with Russia if it invades Poland the same way it has Ukraine?

The Ukrainians have exposed the Russians for what they are a bunch of big talking assholes who are getting their asses kicked and whose actions have brought ruination to their nation...
 there will be no expansion beyond their borders. Putin wants to be a Czar and his desires will not be realized.

[kidcarter8]

When Putin is finished with Ukraine...maybe someone can explain to me how the US is beating Putin in Ukraine atm...Poland will be next, you watch...because Putin knows no one will go to full-on war with Russia.

Care to make a wager on that, Bambu?

No  wager.
But every night when I watch my tv news I don't see the US beating Russia in Ukraine, all I see is more destruction from Russian bombs/missiles, more dead Ukrainian civilians being buried having been tortured and murdered, and Ukrainians leaving on buses before the Russians get there.
Russia has free rein in the sky over Ukraine, and will obviously just keep bombing the whole country until there's nothing left and no people left alive.

 

Yep

[kidcarter8]

When Putin is finished with Ukraine...maybe someone can explain to me how the US is beating Putin in Ukraine atm...Poland will be next, you watch...because Putin knows no one will go to full-on war with Russia.

Care to make a wager on that, Bambu?

No  wager.
But every night when I watch my tv news I don't see the US beating Russia in Ukraine, all I see is more destruction from Russian bombs/missiles, more dead Ukrainian civilians being buried having been tortured and murdered, and Ukrainians leaving on buses before the Russians get there.
Russia has free rein in the sky over Ukraine, and will obviously just keep bombing the whole country until there's nothing left and no people left alive.

You believe US/NATO will go full-on into war with Russia if it invades Poland the same way it has Ukraine?

The Ukrainians have exposed the Russians for what they are a bunch of big talking assholes who are getting their asses kicked and whose actions have brought ruination to their nation...
 there will be no expansion beyond their borders. Putin wants to be a Czar and his desires will not be realized.

Akin to thinking Dems are winning in the US

heh

[LarryBnDC]

When Putin is finished with Ukraine...maybe someone can explain to me how the US is beating Putin in Ukraine atm...Poland will be next, you watch...because Putin knows no one will go to full-on war with Russia.

Care to make a wager on that, Bambu?

No  wager.
But every night when I watch my tv news I don't see the US beating Russia in Ukraine, all I see is more destruction from Russian bombs/missiles, more dead Ukrainian civilians being buried having been tortured and murdered, and Ukrainians leaving on buses before the Russians get there.
Russia has free rein in the sky over Ukraine, and will obviously just keep bombing the whole country until there's nothing left and no people left alive.

You believe US/NATO will go full-on into war with Russia if it invades Poland the same way it has Ukraine?

The Ukrainians have exposed the Russians for what they are a bunch of big talking assholes who are getting their asses kicked and whose actions have brought ruination to their nation...
 there will be no expansion beyond their borders. Putin wants to be a Czar and his desires will not be realized.

Akin to thinking Dems are winning in the US

heh

Do you think Putin is winning?

[bambu.]

When Putin is finished with Ukraine...maybe someone can explain to me how the US is beating Putin in Ukraine atm...Poland will be next, you watch...because Putin knows no one will go to full-on war with Russia.

Care to make a wager on that, Bambu?

No  wager.
But every night when I watch my tv news I don't see the US beating Russia in Ukraine, all I see is more destruction from Russian bombs/missiles, more dead Ukrainian civilians being buried having been tortured and murdered, and Ukrainians leaving on buses before the Russians get there.
Russia has free rein in the sky over Ukraine, and will obviously just keep bombing the whole country until there's nothing left and no people left alive.

You believe US/NATO will go full-on into war with Russia if it invades Poland the same way it has Ukraine?

The Ukrainians have exposed the Russians for what they are a bunch of big talking assholes who are getting their asses kicked and whose actions have brought ruination to their nation...
 there will be no expansion beyond their borders. Putin wants to be a Czar and his desires will not be realized.

Akin to thinking Dems are winning in the US

heh

Do you think Putin is winning?

By what I keep seeing on my tv every night he is.
There was no cease fire, only more intense bombing...and "we are not bombing and killing civilians, it's Ukraine doing it to their own people and blaming us, to make us look bad."

[bambu.]

This is what I see on my tv each night;

https://abcnews.go.com/International/photos-show-devastation-bucha-wake-russian-invasion/story?id=83872938

[Hairy Lime]

When Putin is finished with Ukraine...maybe someone can explain to me how the US is beating Putin in Ukraine atm...Poland will be next, you watch...because Putin knows no one will go to full-on war with Russia.

Care to make a wager on that, Bambu?

No  wager.
But every night when I watch my tv news I don't see the US beating Russia in Ukraine, all I see is more destruction from Russian bombs/missiles, more dead Ukrainian civilians being buried having been tortured and murdered, and Ukrainians leaving on buses before the Russians get there.
Russia has free rein in the sky over Ukraine, and will obviously just keep bombing the whole country until there's nothing left and no people left alive.

You believe US/NATO will go full-on into war with Russia if it invades Poland the same way it has Ukraine?

The Ukrainians have exposed the Russians for what they are a bunch of big talking assholes who are getting their asses kicked and whose actions have brought ruination to their nation...
 there will be no expansion beyond their borders. Putin wants to be a Czar and his desires will not be realized.

Akin to thinking Dems are winning in the US

heh

Do you think Putin is winning?

By what I keep seeing on my tv every night he is.
There was no cease fire, only more intense bombing...and "we are not bombing and killing civilians, it's Ukraine doing it to their own people and blaming us, to make us look bad."

And yet the Ukrainian army has taken back much of the area around Kyiv, with large numbers of burnt out Russian tanks and armored vehicles, downed Russian planes and helicopters, left behind. And they still hold Mariupol despite the devastation. You may not know what winning looks like.

[kiidcarter8]

When Putin is finished with Ukraine...maybe someone can explain to me how the US is beating Putin in Ukraine atm...Poland will be next, you watch...because Putin knows no one will go to full-on war with Russia.

Care to make a wager on that, Bambu?

No  wager.
But every night when I watch my tv news I don't see the US beating Russia in Ukraine, all I see is more destruction from Russian bombs/missiles, more dead Ukrainian civilians being buried having been tortured and murdered, and Ukrainians leaving on buses before the Russians get there.
Russia has free rein in the sky over Ukraine, and will obviously just keep bombing the whole country until there's nothing left and no people left alive.

You believe US/NATO will go full-on into war with Russia if it invades Poland the same way it has Ukraine?

The Ukrainians have exposed the Russians for what they are a bunch of big talking assholes who are getting their asses kicked and whose actions have brought ruination to their nation...
 there will be no expansion beyond their borders. Putin wants to be a Czar and his desires will not be realized.

Akin to thinking Dems are winning in the US

heh

Do you think Putin is winning?

Nobody is.

[luee]

When Putin is finished with Ukraine...maybe someone can explain to me how the US is beating Putin in Ukraine atm...Poland will be next, you watch...because Putin knows no one will go to full-on war with Russia.

Care to make a wager on that, Bambu?

No  wager.
But every night when I watch my tv news I don't see the US beating Russia in Ukraine, all I see is more destruction from Russian bombs/missiles, more dead Ukrainian civilians being buried having been tortured and murdered, and Ukrainians leaving on buses before the Russians get there.
Russia has free rein in the sky over Ukraine, and will obviously just keep bombing the whole country until there's nothing left and no people left alive.

You believe US/NATO will go full-on into war with Russia if it invades Poland the same way it has Ukraine?

Sleepy Joe wont. Just yell and scream moral outrage, than walk it back. He wont even give the victims planes so they have a chance of fighting back.

[LarryBnDC]

When Putin is finished with Ukraine...maybe someone can explain to me how the US is beating Putin in Ukraine atm...Poland will be next, you watch...because Putin knows no one will go to full-on war with Russia.

Care to make a wager on that, Bambu?

No  wager.
But every night when I watch my tv news I don't see the US beating Russia in Ukraine, all I see is more destruction from Russian bombs/missiles, more dead Ukrainian civilians being buried having been tortured and murdered, and Ukrainians leaving on buses before the Russians get there.
Russia has free rein in the sky over Ukraine, and will obviously just keep bombing the whole country until there's nothing left and no people left alive.

You believe US/NATO will go full-on into war with Russia if it invades Poland the same way it has Ukraine?

The Ukrainians have exposed the Russians for what they are a bunch of big talking assholes who are getting their asses kicked and whose actions have brought ruination to their nation...
 there will be no expansion beyond their borders. Putin wants to be a Czar and his desires will not be realized.

Akin to thinking Dems are winning in the US

heh

Do you think Putin is winning?

Nobody is.

Does that mean no one is winning between Democrats and Republicans?

Because in terms of winning in Ukraine the Russian objective is unattainable and it is losing more troops and territory than Putin could have ever imagined.

Come November there are gonna be a bunch sad faces on the Fox News set...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j4SRsGn14PI

[Holly Martins]

When Putin is finished with Ukraine...maybe someone can explain to me how the US is beating Putin in Ukraine atm...Poland will be next, you watch...because Putin knows no one will go to full-on war with Russia.

Care to make a wager on that, Bambu?

No  wager.
But every night when I watch my tv news I don't see the US beating Russia in Ukraine, all I see is more destruction from Russian bombs/missiles, more dead Ukrainian civilians being buried having been tortured and murdered, and Ukrainians leaving on buses before the Russians get there.
Russia has free rein in the sky over Ukraine, and will obviously just keep bombing the whole country until there's nothing left and no people left alive.

You believe US/NATO will go full-on into war with Russia if it invades Poland the same way it has Ukraine?

Sleepy Joe wont. Just yell and scream moral outrage, than walk it back. He wont even give the victims planes so they have a chance of fighting back.

Poland joined NATO in 1999.  We and most of Europe would honor our treaty obligations as NATO members.

Which is why Putin knows better than to go after Poland. 

[LarryBnDC]

When Putin is finished with Ukraine...maybe someone can explain to me how the US is beating Putin in Ukraine atm...Poland will be next, you watch...because Putin knows no one will go to full-on war with Russia.

Care to make a wager on that, Bambu?

No  wager.
But every night when I watch my tv news I don't see the US beating Russia in Ukraine, all I see is more destruction from Russian bombs/missiles, more dead Ukrainian civilians being buried having been tortured and murdered, and Ukrainians leaving on buses before the Russians get there.
Russia has free rein in the sky over Ukraine, and will obviously just keep bombing the whole country until there's nothing left and no people left alive.

You believe US/NATO will go full-on into war with Russia if it invades Poland the same way it has Ukraine?

Sleepy Joe wont. Just yell and scream moral outrage, than walk it back. He wont even give the victims planes so they have a chance of fighting back.

Poland joined NATO in 1999.  We and most of Europe would honor our treaty obligations as NATO members.

Which is why Putin knows better than to go after Poland.

Putin is losing terribly on the ground so now the only true objective is to literally destroy Ukraine and erase the Ukrainians. Putin is creating a generational hatred of Russia in Europe.