Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[bambu-wisdom]

In America, little old men are allowed to carry big old guns!

No cowering in the corner for them....they can protect themselves in their homes and in the streets.
Gotta love that Second Amendment.

Learn to use a boomerang, not that you ever leave the house.

Red died and went to Hell. He trots back up to earth occasionally to empty his dark lord’s chamber pots.

Pell will soon join Red in Hell regardless of the soundness of that legal system.

Which he will have to suffer, if he's guilty.
If he's not guilty he might be going to Heaven.

"Evidence, evidence...wherefore art thou, evidence?"

The robes could not be 'parted or moved to the side' as the accuser stated.
The dead 'victim' told his mother he was never molested in the church.
Defence was barred from showing a video. Why?

The only evidence is the accuser's word.
Not enough for the 'doubters'.

[bambu-wisdom]

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/why-did-howard-abbott-and-the-rest-come-out-to-support-george-pell/ar-BBUhxH5?li=AAgfYrC&OCID=AVRES000

Or we could say generally that many convictions rest on the victim’s uncorroborated evidence, loose ends and all. Which in this case apparently includes the question of whether Pell could produce an erect penis through a seamless alb.

Ultimately: in the system we must trust. Even if it’s sensible to make a distinction in our own minds between what the court found had happened and the truth of what happened. Not because Pell’s victim shouldn’t be believed. Because our criminal justice system rests on evidence not belief; and as the evidence here is largely one man’s word, I’d caution against exuberance.

_____

Time a stop was put to that

Oh no we musn't. [That lady boss of Facebook basically said that there would be 'victims' in the rush today to convict men of sexual assault/sexual harassment who would be lying. Basically that there should have to be thorough investigation and the production of evidence.[]

It does?

[REDSTATEWARD]

So much for a debate.

[oilcan]

Last i looked, you were telling Bart that he missed the parts of The Washington Uber-Righty story about the Pelosi Snit that mattered and clarified how it was a Snit.  But you won't bother to say what those parts are, how they support your narrative, and now you seem disappointed by lack of debate. 

[REDSTATEWARD]

Last i looked, you were telling Bart that he missed the parts of The Washington Uber-Righty story about the Pelosi Snit that mattered and clarified how it was a Snit.  But you won't bother to say what those parts are, how they support your narrative, and now you seem disappointed by lack of debate.

LOL  Pelosi and AOC demand adherence to the party leadership.  Check the news.
Notice my posts quoting democrats arguing against it.

[facilitatorn]

Trump goes on for two hours about how the only real estate in Washington he’s interested in occupying is St. Elizabeth’s. Is it a glandular issue, years of suppressed abuse, or simply the drugs?

[kiidcarter8]

Fucking incredible speech today

This cat is going to be quite tough to defeat.

[kiidcarter8]

NY fentanyl/heroin bust

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/02/us/new-york-fentanyl-heroin-raid/index.html

Would have sworn it would be white guys.

[josh]

The new liberal energy in the House is coming from candidates, including Ocasio-Cortez, who captured districts that generally favor Democrats. Some party strategists say liberal activists must recognize that their message would not work in more conservative areas.

"People would be wise to remember that, by definition, we have the House majority because people flipped seats from red to blue," said Tyler Law, a Democratic consultant who helped direct the party's communications efforts in 2018. "Seats that went from blue to blue did not deliver the majority."

That's a bit misleading.

Without staying blue, one loses the majority just as surely. Sure, not every one of those places was at risk, but some of them were not slamdunks the election before, either.

Further, especially in the case of Pressley as an example, winning the seat over a more moderate Democrat means that they need to keep who elected them in mind - just as surely as the Tea Party candidates do for the seats they won.

You don't notice those articles being written so much. I wonder why not!

But I agree, overall, that the Party as a whole needs to look at what its goals are.

OTOH, Ward, if the issue is saving the planet and the more 'conservative' - centrist - path is to support a bill that won't do the job, then you push for a bill that would. Wouldn't you agree that that is the more prudent approach, conceptually?!

[josh]

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/blogs/national-museum-american-indian/2018/10/31/treaty-fort-laramie/#a8TGhLxJfHxztI92.01

An 1858 Treaty that the US signed with several tribes, but which the United States never honored has gone on display - and 150+ years later, the court cases engendered by that failure are ongoing.

The US deserves to lose.

It is by no means sure that this SCOTUS will make the right decision.

[Espnthree]

The new liberal energy in the House is coming from candidates, including Ocasio-Cortez, who captured districts that generally favor Democrats. Some party strategists say liberal activists must recognize that their message would not work in more conservative areas.

"People would be wise to remember that, by definition, we have the House majority because people flipped seats from red to blue," said Tyler Law, a Democratic consultant who helped direct the party's communications efforts in 2018. "Seats that went from blue to blue did not deliver the majority."

That's a bit misleading.

Without staying blue, one loses the majority just as surely. Sure, not every one of those places was at risk, but some of them were not slamdunks the election before, either.

Further, especially in the case of Pressley as an example, winning the seat over a more moderate Democrat means that they need to keep who elected them in mind - just as surely as the Tea Party candidates do for the seats they won.

You don't notice those articles being written so much. I wonder why not!

But I agree, overall, that the Party as a whole needs to look at what its goals are.

OTOH, Ward, if the issue is saving the planet and the more 'conservative' - centrist - path is to support a bill that won't do the job, then you push for a bill that would. Wouldn't you agree that that is the more prudent approach, conceptually?!

You might want to try that argument with moderate democrats. After all they represent 33 of the 40 districts that flipped the House from red to blue.  I don't know what you mean by ' save the planet' either.  I can predict, with certainty, that the New Green Deal has no chance of being implemented.

[LarryBnDC]

Fucking incredible speech today

This cat is going to be quite tough to defeat.

Yeah, reminded me of one of Fidel’s marathon stemwinders or Qaddafi’s UN speech...

[facilitatorn]

America is sick of little fascist surrender monkeys like CPAC attendees such as trump.

[josh]

The new liberal energy in the House is coming from candidates, including Ocasio-Cortez, who captured districts that generally favor Democrats. Some party strategists say liberal activists must recognize that their message would not work in more conservative areas.

"People would be wise to remember that, by definition, we have the House majority because people flipped seats from red to blue," said Tyler Law, a Democratic consultant who helped direct the party's communications efforts in 2018. "Seats that went from blue to blue did not deliver the majority."

That's a bit misleading.

Without staying blue, one loses the majority just as surely. Sure, not every one of those places was at risk, but some of them were not slamdunks the election before, either.

Further, especially in the case of Pressley as an example, winning the seat over a more moderate Democrat means that they need to keep who elected them in mind - just as surely as the Tea Party candidates do for the seats they won.

You don't notice those articles being written so much. I wonder why not!

But I agree, overall, that the Party as a whole needs to look at what its goals are.

OTOH, Ward, if the issue is saving the planet and the more 'conservative' - centrist - path is to support a bill that won't do the job, then you push for a bill that would. Wouldn't you agree that that is the more prudent approach, conceptually?!

You might want to try that argument with moderate democrats. After all they represent 33 of the 40 districts that flipped the House from red to blue.  I don't know what you mean by ' save the planet' either.  I can predict, with certainty, that the New Green Deal has no chance of being implemented.

"I don't know what you mean by ' save the planet' either."

The bill suggested (but not yet filed) by Senator Feinstein is one of the strongest pieces of ecological legislation ever filed.

Implemented fully, it will not stop the oncoming disaster and not really even slow it down much. So, passing it and hoping it works won't cut it.

The Green New Deal has problems, but it is closer to viable than any other legislation under discussion. And it manages to give those infrastructure jobs we've talked about before, too.

Will it fail? Perhaps. We can hope that the important bits don't.

[josh]