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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13125 on: April 26, 2019, 08:27:59 PM »

A member of the independent counsel team that recommended the impeachment of President Bill Clinton says that President Trump’s attempts to obstruct justice are “blunter by a thousandfold” than anything Clinton did and more than justifies the House Judiciary Committee opening impeachment proceedings.

So what are the dems waiting for?
Enough Republicans to put country over party to make it plausible. Not that this will happen.
Ah.
In the meantime they will talk about giving convicted murderers the right to vote,  have more conversations about reparations, discuss medicare for all, the green new deal, put bankers in jail, bust up large agricultural corporations, send tons of federal money to states to double teacher salaries,buy every baby a bond, forgive student debt and, of course, tax only the rich to pay for it all.

Why the fuck not! How about some fucking noblesse oblige?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13126 on: April 26, 2019, 08:34:35 PM »

A member of the independent counsel team that recommended the impeachment of President Bill Clinton says that President Trump’s attempts to obstruct justice are “blunter by a thousandfold” than anything Clinton did and more than justifies the House Judiciary Committee opening impeachment proceedings.

So what are the dems waiting for?
Enough Republicans to put country over party to make it plausible. Not that this will happen.
Ah.
In the meantime they will talk about giving convicted murderers the right to vote,  have more conversations about reparations, discuss medicare for all, the green new deal, put bankers in jail, bust up large agricultural corporations, send tons of federal money to states to double teacher salaries,buy every baby a bond, forgive student debt and, of course, tax only the rich to pay for it all.
The work of the nation will go on parallel to the 8nvestigations, if that is what you mean.
LOL
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13127 on: April 26, 2019, 08:43:48 PM »

Trump changes his mind in the right direction, for a change.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/26/politics/donald-trump-measles-vaccines/

Has always been in favor of vaccines and is now appropriately advising that those not vaccinated AT ALL get it done.

You need to better inform yourself about the man you worship, kiidcarter8.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-donald-trump-repeatedly-claim-vaccines-cause-autism-they-dont/

Its right in the article.  Vaccinate in smaller doses.

Vaccines don't work that way.  A dose must be large enough to trigger the immune system to develop antibodies against the disease.  Splitting a dose defeats that purpose and renders the vaccine ineffective.   As anyone with actual knowledge of medicine would know.  And you still evade the main point:  Trump gullibly believed a myth, the autism/vaccine myth, discredited years ago. 

As my previous post made clear:  you were wrong.  As is also clear:   you are pathologically incapable of admitting when you are wrong.  Or that you lied about Trump's prior view of vaccination.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13128 on: April 26, 2019, 08:45:33 PM »

A member of the independent counsel team that recommended the impeachment of President Bill Clinton says that President Trump’s attempts to obstruct justice are “blunter by a thousandfold” than anything Clinton did and more than justifies the House Judiciary Committee opening impeachment proceedings.

So what are the dems waiting for?
Enough Republicans to put country over party to make it plausible. Not that this will happen.
Ah.
In the meantime they will talk about giving convicted murderers the right to vote,  have more conversations about reparations, discuss medicare for all, the green new deal, put bankers in jail, bust up large agricultural corporations, send tons of federal money to states to double teacher salaries,buy every baby a bond, forgive student debt and, of course, tax only the rich to pay for it all.

Why the fuck not! How about some fucking noblesse oblige?
None yet proposed by the dems.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13129 on: April 26, 2019, 08:49:12 PM »

Trump changes his mind in the right direction, for a change.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/26/politics/donald-trump-measles-vaccines/

Has always been in favor of vaccines and is now appropriately advising that those not vaccinated AT ALL get it done.

You need to better inform yourself about the man you worship, kiidcarter8.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-donald-trump-repeatedly-claim-vaccines-cause-autism-they-dont/

Its right in the article.  Vaccinate in smaller doses.

...because it causes autism.

It's right there in the article.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13130 on: April 26, 2019, 08:55:04 PM »

A member of the independent counsel team that recommended the impeachment of President Bill Clinton says that President Trump’s attempts to obstruct justice are “blunter by a thousandfold” than anything Clinton did and more than justifies the House Judiciary Committee opening impeachment proceedings.

So what are the dems waiting for?
Enough Republicans to put country over party to make it plausible. Not that this will happen.
Ah.
In the meantime they will talk about giving convicted murderers the right to vote,  have more conversations about reparations, discuss medicare for all, the green new deal, put bankers in jail, bust up large agricultural corporations, send tons of federal money to states to double teacher salaries,buy every baby a bond, forgive student debt and, of course, tax only the rich to pay for it all.

Why the fuck not! How about some fucking noblesse oblige?
None yet proposed by the dems.

You haven’t listened to Sen. Warren, you know, Princess KnowsHerShit, have you?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13131 on: April 26, 2019, 09:04:13 PM »

Trump changes his mind in the right direction, for a change.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/26/politics/donald-trump-measles-vaccines/

Has always been in favor of vaccines and is now appropriately advising that those not vaccinated AT ALL get it done.

You need to better inform yourself about the man you worship, kiidcarter8.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-donald-trump-repeatedly-claim-vaccines-cause-autism-they-dont/

Its right in the article.  Vaccinate in smaller doses.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13132 on: April 26, 2019, 09:18:04 PM »

A member of the independent counsel team that recommended the impeachment of President Bill Clinton says that President Trump’s attempts to obstruct justice are “blunter by a thousandfold” than anything Clinton did and more than justifies the House Judiciary Committee opening impeachment proceedings.

So what are the dems waiting for?
Enough Republicans to put country over party to make it plausible. Not that this will happen.
Ah.
In the meantime they will talk about giving convicted murderers the right to vote,  have more conversations about reparations, discuss medicare for all, the green new deal, put bankers in jail, bust up large agricultural corporations, send tons of federal money to states to double teacher salaries,buy every baby a bond, forgive student debt and, of course, tax only the rich to pay for it all.

Why the fuck not! How about some fucking noblesse oblige?
None yet proposed by the dems.

You haven’t listened to Sen. Warren, you know, Princess KnowsHerShit, have you?
None yet proposed by the dems.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13133 on: April 26, 2019, 09:48:17 PM »

A member of the independent counsel team that recommended the impeachment of President Bill Clinton says that President Trump’s attempts to obstruct justice are “blunter by a thousandfold” than anything Clinton did and more than justifies the House Judiciary Committee opening impeachment proceedings.

So what are the dems waiting for?
Enough Republicans to put country over party to make it plausible. Not that this will happen.
Ah.
In the meantime they will talk about giving convicted murderers the right to vote,  have more conversations about reparations, discuss medicare for all, the green new deal, put bankers in jail, bust up large agricultural corporations, send tons of federal money to states to double teacher salaries,buy every baby a bond, forgive student debt and, of course, tax only the rich to pay for it all.

Why the fuck not! How about some fucking noblesse oblige?
None yet proposed by the dems.

You haven’t listened to Sen. Warren, you know, Princess KnowsHerShit, have you?
None yet proposed by the dems.

It appears you don’t understand the concept.

How about the rich show some goddamn initiative?

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13134 on: April 26, 2019, 10:07:42 PM »

IS anyone really a Biden supporter?
I guess the theory is the Dems go with a white guy to keep the white vote somewhat close.  An establishment candidate who doesn't scare away moderates (like a socialist or black or woman might).  A return to normalcy and stability, instead of Trump's Reality Presidency. 

But does Biden have any new ideas or represent change in any way?  I guess Biden can scoop up a few ideas from Warren, Sanders, etc to not seem stuck in the past.  He just seems like a hack to me, the kind the Dems usually put up and lose with.
 
I'm a Warren supporter.  I'd really like someone who is smart and tough and can energize the young people and the base.  Someone with ideas and who is willing to point out how rigged the system is in favor of the rich.  And that the GOP is the party of Rich Rigging.

Biden seems the least inspired choice to me.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13136 on: April 26, 2019, 11:07:56 PM »

In the meantime they will talk about giving convicted murderers the right to vote

You don't get it.

It's a right. We all have the right to vote.

The question is why they have had that right taken from them, not why people want to give it to them.

People who commit voter or election fraud should lose the right to vote. And non-citizens who vote illegally should not gain voting privileges in prison.

But the rest of it? No constitutional basis, after the 19th Amendment, to deny prisoners the right to vote. Regulate where they can vote? Sure.
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« Reply #13137 on: April 26, 2019, 11:10:03 PM »

IS anyone really a Biden supporter?

A lot of folks really like Biden, both for himself and as a candidate for president.

I think more people don't, but that remains to be seen.

And based on his past performances, the longer he campaigns, the fewer people will support his candidacy.
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« Reply #13138 on: April 26, 2019, 11:26:02 PM »

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/obstruction-case-william-barr-doj-donald-trump.html

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This evidence provided the basis for Barr’s Department of Justice to indict the state judge and state officer for obstruction of justice and conspiracy to obstruct justice. Yet all of the reasons Barr has previously cited for opposing an obstruction investigation against the president suggest the Department of Justice should not have brought obstruction charges against Joseph and MacGregor either.

For example, in June, Barr wrote a memo as a private citizen arguing that obstruction laws should not “reach facially-lawful actions taken by the President in exercising the discretion vested in him by the Constitution.”
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Or take Barr’s statement—given at a bizarre press conference just prior to the release of the Mueller report last week—that the president did not corruptly intend to obstruct the investigation because the president “was frustrated and angered by a sincere belief that the investigation was undermining his presidency.” A similar exculpatory argument could be made on behalf of Joseph and MacGregor. They, too, may have been “frustrated and angered by a sincere belief that” ICE’s investigations and presence in state courthouses undermined the integrity of state court proceedings.
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Ultimately, the Justice Department’s indictment of Joseph and MacGregor is a reminder about how aggressively the federal government often reads the federal obstruction statute. For example, the indictment confirms that obstruction does not have to be particularly sophisticated or successful in order to constitute a crime—the trial court officer merely let the defendant out the back door, and the defendant was subsequently apprehended and now faces deportation.

It also demonstrates a contrast in the kind of evidence that often suffices to establish an obstruction-of-justice charge. In the case of Joseph and MacGregor, DOJ has some snippets of a courtroom conversation that indicated the judge wanted to do something she did not want publicly recorded and less than a minute without a recording. In the case of President Donald Trump and his associates, special counsel Robert Mueller compiled dozens of witnesses, contemporaneous notes, 10 separate incidents, 182 pages of a report, multiple instances of officials lying to investigators or not being forthcoming with them, and several damning instances of the president lying in an apparent effort to cover his tracks. All of this led Barr to his four-page summary conclusion that Trump had not committed a crime—a conclusion that flew in the face of Mueller’s findings.
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