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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20280 on: September 15, 2019, 09:31:33 AM »



Even if it meant pigs can fly the idea that government run insurance would be a popular choice is hysterical.

Yeah, people really HATE the FDIC and SSA.  I'm sending my SS checks back, and if my bank fails I will be happily broke!   
If you are happy with your SSA check enjoy it.
But thank goodness for 401k s and a plethora of other private investments to enjoy retirement.
Ac­cord­ing to the Fed­eral Re­serve, house-holds headed by peo­ple over the age of 55 own 73% of the value of do­mes­ti­cally owned stocks, and the same share of Amer­i­ca’s to­tal wealth.
House-holds of ages 65 to 74 have an av­er­age of $1,066,000 in net worth, while those be­tween ages 35 and 44 have less than a third as much on av­er­age, at $288,700.

I just took a look at median household net worth and the #s are nowhere near the #s that Red has posted, as the very wealthy can skew the averages dramatically. Its amazing what a handful of bilionaires can do to the #s...


And he misses my point that if he claims

  the idea that government run insurance would be a popular choice is hysterical.   

the claim is undermined by the fact that several forms of government insurance are quite popular.   The fact that there will always be supplements to government insurance marketed by private companies doesn't mean that people don't want the government program.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20281 on: September 15, 2019, 09:59:42 AM »



Even if it meant pigs can fly the idea that government run insurance would be a popular choice is hysterical.

Yeah, people really HATE the FDIC and SSA.  I'm sending my SS checks back, and if my bank fails I will be happily broke!   
If you are happy with your SSA check enjoy it.
But thank goodness for 401k s and a plethora of other private investments to enjoy retirement.
Ac­cord­ing to the Fed­eral Re­serve, house-holds headed by peo­ple over the age of 55 own 73% of the value of do­mes­ti­cally owned stocks, and the same share of Amer­i­ca’s to­tal wealth.
House-holds of ages 65 to 74 have an av­er­age of $1,066,000 in net worth, while those be­tween ages 35 and 44 have less than a third as much on av­er­age, at $288,700.

I just took a look at median household net worth and the #s are nowhere near the #s that Red has posted, as the very wealthy can skew the averages dramatically. Its amazing what a handful of bilionaires can do to the #s...


And he misses my point that if he claims

  the idea that government run insurance would be a popular choice is hysterical.   

the claim is undermined by the fact that several forms of government insurance are quite popular.   The fact that there will always be supplements to government insurance marketed by private companies doesn't mean that people don't want the government program.
"No socialized medicine! And keep your hands off my medicare!"
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20282 on: September 15, 2019, 12:07:14 PM »



Even if it meant pigs can fly the idea that government run insurance would be a popular choice is hysterical.

Yeah, people really HATE the FDIC and SSA.  I'm sending my SS checks back, and if my bank fails I will be happily broke!   
If you are happy with your SSA check enjoy it.
But thank goodness for 401k s and a plethora of other private investments to enjoy retirement.
Ac­cord­ing to the Fed­eral Re­serve, house-holds headed by peo­ple over the age of 55 own 73% of the value of do­mes­ti­cally owned stocks, and the same share of Amer­i­ca’s to­tal wealth.
House-holds of ages 65 to 74 have an av­er­age of $1,066,000 in net worth, while those be­tween ages 35 and 44 have less than a third as much on av­er­age, at $288,700.

I just took a look at median household net worth and the #s are nowhere near the #s that Red has posted, as the very wealthy can skew the averages dramatically. Its amazing what a handful of bilionaires can do to the #s...


And he misses my point that if he claims

  the idea that government run insurance would be a popular choice is hysterical.   

the claim is undermined by the fact that several forms of government insurance are quite popular.   The fact that there will always be supplements to government insurance marketed by private companies doesn't mean that people don't want the government program.
"No socialized medicine! And keep your hands off my medicare!"

I don't feel like getting deep into the weeds on this but I thought it was funny that Red was extolling value and wealth that 401ks have helped the middle class accumulate (even if he tried to mislead with his example) over the last 30+ years, and 401ks were government approved programs, allowing employers to offer similar but varied choices for employees to manage. and it led to more transparency, greater choices and lower costs for employee investors. And not surprsingly also produced a whole new class of engaged and informed investors. It was a huge impetus for growth in the financial services industry.

Its entirely possible that similar benefits (more choices, lower costs) can be brought to healthcare and healthcare insurance as the government better manages the process and makes that huge business more transparent as well.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20283 on: September 15, 2019, 02:28:57 PM »

The French government owns companies, and parts of companies, for instance when you buy a Nissan automobile then part of the money goes to France, when you buy a Nissan car then you help to pay for medical care for a Frenchman, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan

The USA should own the electric company for China, everytime a person in China pays their electric bill then the money goes to the USA. That would easily cover medical care for all Americans, and plus free college. And there would be plenty of money to help the homeless people, etc.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20284 on: September 15, 2019, 06:45:05 PM »

Dem Debate Absurdities.

Julián Castro,referring to the El Paso shooter; a few weeks ago, a shooter drove 10 miles inspired by this president to kill people who look like me and people who look like my family. White supremacy is a growing threat to this country, and we have to root it out.
Yes. Of course. Who can trust a people who elected a murderer as President while they are enjoying the highest employment levels ever in history? I guess to Castro white supremacists both giveth and taketh away.LOL!

Racism in America is endemic. It is foundational cried Beto O’Rourke.
We can mark the creation of this country not at the Fourth of July, 1776, but August 20, 1619, when the first kidnapped African was brought to this country against his will and in bondage and as a slave built the greatness and the success and the wealth that neither he nor his descendants would ever be able to fully participate in and enjoy.”
Apparently O’Rourke has a version of history revised by the New York Times.
Forget the fireworks and hot dogs  on July Fourth. Under President Beto we’ll all whip ourselves the 20th day of every August.

On the issue of teachers
who  democrats call for higher pay (more union cash flowing to democrats).
O’Rourke maintains those same teachers are instruments of our institutionalized racism. He claimed that in his own native state of Texas, a 5-year-old child in kindergarten is five times as likely to be disciplined or suspended or expelled based on the color of their skin.
No one asked Beto why we should
give these supposed distributors of racially motivated punishments more cash? Moreover doing that would only deplete the money for a reparations bill ( he vows to sign as President) that will allow us to address this at its foundation.
Of course all the candidates were outdoing each other saving the planet infested by the voters they say they covet.
Elizabeth Warren promised she would by 2028 cut all carbon emissions from new buildings. By 2030, carbon emissions from cars. And by 2035, all carbon emissions from the manufacture of electricity
According to Doctor Warren the way
to save our dying planet is apparently by killing our racist country’s economy.

Warren also seems to think she can increase China’s minimum wage, not just ours: You want to come sell goods to American consumers? Then you’ve got to raise your standards. You’ve got to raise your labor standards She’s a Harvard professor you know.

And South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg,as commander in chief, would telegraph to our enemies at the outset of war the date of an American surrender courtesy of a built-in three-year sunset1/i]. This from a man who fought in Afghanistan in a war he claimed the USA started. (6000 Pinocchios for him)

Finally, the education policy of Joe Biden, the supposed moderate and elder statesman of the party.

We bring social workers into homes of parents to help them deal with how to raise their children. It’s not that they don’t want help. They don’t know quite what to do.
I swear Biden and Lee Corso are interchangeable, lovable but so beyond their times.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20285 on: September 15, 2019, 06:51:52 PM »



Even if it meant pigs can fly the idea that government run insurance would be a popular choice is hysterical.

Yeah, people really HATE the FDIC and SSA.  I'm sending my SS checks back, and if my bank fails I will be happily broke!   
If you are happy with your SSA check enjoy it.
But thank goodness for 401k s and a plethora of other private investments to enjoy retirement.
Ac­cord­ing to the Fed­eral Re­serve, house-holds headed by peo­ple over the age of 55 own 73% of the value of do­mes­ti­cally owned stocks, and the same share of Amer­i­ca’s to­tal wealth.
House-holds of ages 65 to 74 have an av­er­age of $1,066,000 in net worth, while those be­tween ages 35 and 44 have less than a third as much on av­er­age, at $288,700.

I just took a look at median household net worth and the #s are nowhere near the #s that Red has posted, as the very wealthy can skew the averages dramatically. Its amazing what a handful of bilionaires can do to the #s...


And he misses my point that if he claims

  the idea that government run insurance would be a popular choice is hysterical.   

the claim is undermined by the fact that several forms of government insurance are quite popular.   The fact that there will always be supplements to government insurance marketed by private companies doesn't mean that people don't want the government program.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20286 on: September 15, 2019, 06:56:06 PM »



Even if it meant pigs can fly the idea that government run insurance would be a popular choice is hysterical.

Yeah, people really HATE the FDIC and SSA.  I'm sending my SS checks back, and if my bank fails I will be happily broke!   
If you are happy with your SSA check enjoy it.
But thank goodness for 401k s and a plethora of other private investments to enjoy retirement.
Ac­cord­ing to the Fed­eral Re­serve, house-holds headed by peo­ple over the age of 55 own 73% of the value of do­mes­ti­cally owned stocks, and the same share of Amer­i­ca’s to­tal wealth.
House-holds of ages 65 to 74 have an av­er­age of $1,066,000 in net worth, while those be­tween ages 35 and 44 have less than a third as much on av­er­age, at $288,700.

I just took a look at median household net worth and the #s are nowhere near the #s that Red has posted, as the very wealthy can skew the averages dramatically. Its amazing what a handful of bilionaires can do to the #s...


And he misses my point that if he claims

  the idea that government run insurance would be a popular choice is hysterical.   

the claim is undermined by the fact that several forms of government insurance are quite popular.   The fact that there will always be supplements to government insurance marketed by private companies doesn't mean that people don't want the government program.
"No socialized medicine! And keep your hands off my medicare!"

Socialised medicine/healthcare is great if you're poor, not working, old and sick, young and sick, middle aged and sick...or working for the man for very little pay.

bambuland's 'PBS' scheme is great. Govt subsidised.
"Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme"..govt adds drugs to the 'PBS'...the People can buy them for $30 instead of $30,000, $3,000, $300, or $15 instead of $90 or $150...etc etc etc.
$6.50 for pensioners.

US can afford it...just reduce the defence budget of $600billion pa by a few billion.
Reduce the Foreign Aid budget...[Australia did]
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-25/fact-check-has-foreign-aid-budget-been-cut-five-years-running/9783098
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« Reply #20287 on: September 15, 2019, 08:06:45 PM »

Ever since Jim “the educator” got laid off from his job as night attendant for a spank booth shop, he’s been on Medicaid.

Everything good in the economy is credit to 44, a legitimate president who won elections.

White Supremacists are thieves as well as crackers. You know this Jim. You live with your thieving cracker self.

Your pronouncements about what helps and hurts the economy expose you for the ignorant mongrel cracker that you are.

Going through all your life trying to represent yourself as a member of a fake race took the brain space you would have needed to be less ignorant.

And on top of all this, there is your Syphilis
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« Reply #20288 on: September 15, 2019, 08:23:23 PM »

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« Reply #20289 on: September 15, 2019, 08:30:57 PM »

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« Reply #20290 on: September 15, 2019, 09:15:31 PM »

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« Reply #20291 on: September 15, 2019, 09:21:40 PM »

Maybe if there were less hatred of White people [particularly White men] in the world, there might be less White supremacists.
Maybe not though, because as we all know, today it's "every man and woman for himself/herself".
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« Reply #20292 on: September 15, 2019, 09:35:30 PM »

Maybe if there were less hatred of White people [particularly White men] in the world, there might be less White supremacists.
Maybe not though, because as we all know, today it's "every man and woman for himself/herself".

Given that there used to be more when they had more power, I think your reasoning sucks. That is to say, par for the course.
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« Reply #20294 on: September 15, 2019, 09:41:15 PM »

Katie Porter and Neal Katyal will do very nicely replacing Kavanaugh and Thomas on the Supreme Court.
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