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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[bodiddley]

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/politics/decision-2020/study-finds-stacey-abrams-is-bidens-best-choice-heres-why/2094483/

Biden's main argument is that he is competent and will return things to normal.  Veep isn't terribly important, but he is old so people want some assurance that his VP is ready to be president.  And I wouldn't say that about a person who never won a state office.  I could see GA being appealing, but someone like Kamala Harris has been on the national stage and seems a lot more ready, if you want a black female.

I'd also prefer someone who has national campaign experience and has been vetted.  A lot less surprises that way. 

Plus if Biden wins he's likely a one-termer and his Veep becomes the presumptive frontrunner for next election.  I'd rather the DEM front runner be someone with a solid resume who is ready for the next election, than someone who is largely new to the national stage and could be a weak front runner (kind of like what Obama bequeathed us). 

Kamala seems the obvious choice.  Successful, tough, well-spoken, national campaign experience, her senate replacement will be another Dem, etc.
A black woman could help patch together the Obama coalition that Biden is counting on, and potentially fire up the base.

The other main contenders seems to be all from around the midwest --Amy and the two Tammys.  With Biden trying to project steadiness and competence, going for an unknown/lesser known surprise addition to the ticket seems like the wrong move (and usually will be).

Just to make up numbers, i'll go with:
40% Kamala
25% Amy Kornhusker
10% Tammy Baldwin
10% Tammy Duckworth
1%   Liz Warren
4%   someone else

Okay, my Someone Else # should be larger.  And Abrams probably has at least a 10% chance, that I'm discounting.
But I think those 4 are the faves.

[josh]

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/it-will-not-be-pretty-state-preparing-to-make-life-or-death-decisions-if-coronavirus-overwhelms-health-care-system/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=owned_echobox_f&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3k47nUFk7qxC3f2dmuzPvajg6G9svRDBT5Ao2tFrsfOhOmhp5wA02JwR8#Echobox=1584760065

That said, the state is prepared to act if it has to and has developed guidelines that will be implemented across the system, from the bedside doctor to hospital systems.

“We will do it as a state under ethical framework that is part of the state plan,” she said. “It will be overseen by an objective team who has been thoroughly briefed on the protocols and processes, and will be undertaken in a transparent and equitable manner.

“But, make no mistake, it will not be pretty,” said Sakata, who is a practicing emergency medicine physician. “That’s why we are taking the steps we are taking now, the social distancing, the hand washing, all of that, so sometime down the road nobody is left having to decide who gets resources, and who doesn’t.”
...
...
Sauer said she was talking about the plan in hopes of convincing the federal government to release additional medical stores from the Strategic National Stockpile, where it keeps much-needed ventilators and other equipment necessary to treat the sickest of the COVID-19 victims.

“This is America,” she said. “We have resources. We should not be in this position.”

[kiidcarter8]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/manny-alvarez-bullish-chloroquine-malaria-drug-coronavirus

[josh]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/manny-alvarez-bullish-chloroquine-malaria-drug-coronavirus

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fauci-throws-cold-water-trumps-declaration-malaria-drug/story?id=69716324

When asked if the drug was promising Friday, Fauci, standing next to Trump, said “the answer is no” because “the evidence you’re talking about … is anecdotal evidence.”

“The information that you’re referring to specifically is antecdotal,” he added. “It was not done in a controlled clinical trial. So you really can’t make any definitive statement about it.”

Kid, I cannot block the President of the United States from uttering false information.

But would you please stop?! Do the slightest bit of fact checking before bringing us this bullshit. I understand that it appeared on Fox News. And not only did Dr. Alvaraz express excitement about it, but so did Dr. Oz.

"Manuel Alvarez (born c. 1957) is a Cuban-American obstetrician-gynecologist..."

"Mehmet Cengiz Öz (Turkish: [mehˈmet dʒeɲˈɟiz œz]; born June 11, 1960),[1] known professionally as Dr. Oz, is a Turkish American[2][3] television personality, cardiothoracic surgeon, Columbia University professor,[4] pseudoscience promoter,[5] and author."

Anthony Stephen Fauci ( /ˈfaʊtʃi/; born December 24, 1940) is an American immunologist who serves as director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and as a member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force addressing the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic. As a physician employed by the National Institutes of Health of the United States, he has served public health in a variety of capacities for more than half a century. He has made contributions to HIV/AIDS research and other immunodeficiencies, both as a scientist and as the head of the NIAID at the National Institutes of Health (NIH). He has been called "the nation’s leading expert on infectious diseases".[1]

Dr. Fauci is an expert.

Dr. Alvarez is not.

And Dr. Oz is a brilliant man who has managed to turn a great career into being a world-renowned quack.

[facilitatorn]

But what does Ben Carson say, or that guy from Independence Day who used to sell trump his Adderall scripts?

Aren’t they supposed to be some kind of doctors as well?

[facilitatorn]

http://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/03/trump-coronavirus-response-9-11.html

Slow. Stupid. Self involved. Unable and unwilling to provide anyone any protection.

Stormy spoke from first hand knowledge and now we’re all paying the price.

[josh]

According to Darshan-Leitner, if a private party like a hospital or health care worker of a chemical company had learned of a dangerous and highly contagious disease and then deliberately covered its existence up and concealed it from the public they would clearly face criminal and civil liability.

"Why should a local or national government be any different? Clearly, President Trump swore an oath and had a duty under the Constitution to report the virus and not cover it up," Josh continued, applying Darshan-Leitner's thinking more appropriately. "President Trump is not to blame for creating the virus but for not sounding the national alarm and trying to conceal it from the country. His failure extends to a refusal to act, even as the need has grown. Every day that he refuses to release the US reserves of medical equipment, he costs lives. Every day he chooses not to order companies to turn their manufacturing to our desperate needs, medical people are going to suffer and therefore the American people will suffer extra."

President Donald Trump ignored reports from US intelligence agencies starting in January that warned of the scale and intensity of the coronavirus outbreak in China, The Washington Post reported Friday.

Citing US officials familiar with the agencies' reports and warnings, the Post reported that intelligence agencies depicted the nature and global spread of the virus and China's apparent downplaying of its severity, as well as the potential need for government measures to contain it -- while Trump opted to dismiss or simply not address their seriousness.

"Donald Trump may not have been expecting this, but a lot of other people in the government were -- they just couldn't get him to do anything about it," the official noted to the Post. "The system was blinking red."

The CIA and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment to the Post. When asked for comment on the report, White House spokesperson Judd Deere directed CNN to fellow spokesperson Hogan Gidley's comment to the Post.

"President Trump has taken historic, aggressive measures to protect the health, wealth and safety of the American people -- and did so, while the media and Democrats close to only focus on the stupid politics of a sham illegitimate impeachment," Gidley told the paper in a statement. "It's more than disgusting, despicable and disgraceful for cowardly unnamed sources to attempt to rewrite history -- it's a clear threat to this great country."

A source familiar told CNN that the congressional intelligence committees were briefed on the threat coronavirus posed in January and February.

The intelligence reports did not predict when the virus might hit the US or recommend steps that should be taken in response, the source said. The reports tracked the spread of the virus in China and then other countries, and warned that Chinese officials were minimizing the impact.

Within the administration, Trump's aides tried in vain to convince him of the virus's seriousness, according to the Post. Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar was unable to discuss the virus with Trump until January 18, two senior administration officials told the Post -- at which point the President interrupted him to ask when sales of flavored vaping products would resume, senior administration officials told the paper.[/size]

[bodiddley]

Here's an interesting article about the origins  and chemistry of chloraquine.
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/03/20/chloroquine-past-and-present
Trying to synthesize quinine, they accidentally came up with a very useful purple (mauve) dye.  And then further attempts led to drugs that turned people funny colors.  Until they cut off that part of the chemical chain responsible for that effect.

[kiidcarter8]

Thanks for the link, Bo.

Certainly there could/will be tweaks to the formula or it could be used as part of a combo - though the drug as is could be beneficial to many.

[kiidcarter8]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/20/politics/congressman-ben-mcadams-coronavirus-symptoms-cnntv/index.html

"They've said I can take Tylenol to watch the fever, but there's really nothing we can do," he said. "I can take cough medicine, I haven't, but there's really nothing we can do other than just take it easy."



Why not Advil?

[barton]

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/politics/decision-2020/study-finds-stacey-abrams-is-bidens-best-choice-heres-why/2094483/

Ah, yes.
A candidate who blamed her loss on “ voter suppression”.
A favorite democrat complaint that has yet to have one verifiable case to point to.

One cannot prove anything to anybody.

One can only provide the facts and hope that they will be honest with themselves about it.

There are no facts. That’s why you didn’t post any.

Oh look! Time for the afternoon feeding in the sea lion pen!

You'd think Charlie Brown would stop running to kick the football after Lucy has yanked it away several hundred times.   Red offers his faux receptivity to facts,  then pulls it away when citations are brought.   Josh is a highly competent researcher,  but ultimately the Sea Lion wears down all opposition with endless tedious obtuseness.   

[kiidcarter8]

Good morning, Bart

Thanks for your valuable contribution

[barton]

Why would folks not consider relocating temporarily if possible?
Any answer appreciated

Pets
Civic responsibility
Family
Work
Lack of financial resources
...

You've just been sea lioned.   Seriously, what is gained by answering such obtuse "questions"?   FFS,  how would massive relo do anything but further spread contagion to areas currently less affected?   Kid is trolling,  big-time.

[barton]

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/politics/decision-2020/study-finds-stacey-abrams-is-bidens-best-choice-heres-why/2094483/

Biden's main argument is that he is competent and will return things to normal.  Veep isn't terribly important, but he is old so people want some assurance that his VP is ready to be president.  And I wouldn't say that about a person who never won a state office.  I could see GA being appealing, but someone like Kamala Harris has been on the national stage and seems a lot more ready, if you want a black female.

I'd also prefer someone who has national campaign experience and has been vetted.  A lot less surprises that way. 

Plus if Biden wins he's likely a one-termer and his Veep becomes the presumptive frontrunner for next election.  I'd rather the DEM front runner be someone with a solid resume who is ready for the next election, than someone who is largely new to the national stage and could be a weak front runner (kind of like what Obama bequeathed us). 

...

Yep,  this is why I don't see Abrams as qualified.   I'd love to see her jump back into a Georgia contest,  scuff her shoes some at various levels of office and THEN go national.

[kiidcarter8]

If Abrams runs again this will ruin everything.

Currently she is a political martyr.  Allow her and her pals to benefit off this for a while