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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #34260 on: May 13, 2020, 10:38:14 PM »
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« Reply #34261 on: May 13, 2020, 10:44:08 PM »
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« Reply #34262 on: May 13, 2020, 11:17:58 PM »
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« Reply #34263 on: May 13, 2020, 11:25:00 PM »
Sen. Burr served with warrant to for cell phone. Investigation concerns possible insider trading.


https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article242724611.html
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« Reply #34264 on: May 13, 2020, 11:30:22 PM »
Quote from: LarryBnDC on May 13, 2020, 11:25:00 PM
Sen. Burr served with warrant to for cell phone. Investigation concerns possible insider trading.


https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article242724611.html

That's one!
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« Reply #34265 on: May 13, 2020, 11:30:58 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/health/japan-black-light-experiment-coronavirus-trnd-wellness/index.html

How does the COVID-19 bug spread in a restaurant with just one sick diner?!
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« Reply #34266 on: May 13, 2020, 11:34:36 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/politics/emmet-sullivan-michael-flynn-perjury/index.html

WOW!

Judge questions if Michael Flynn has perjured himself in his court case

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Federal Judge Emmet Sullivan on Wednesday asked whether President Donald Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn could be held in contempt of court for perjury.

Sullivan also appointed a retired judge to look into Flynn's case and argue against the Department of Justice's request to dismiss it.
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Sullivan appointed a retired judge, John Gleeson, to act, in court parlance, as a "friend of the court" or amicus curiae, presenting arguments to the judge "in opposition to the government's Motion to Dismiss" and on "whether the Court should issue an Order to Show Cause why Mr. Flynn should not be held in criminal contempt for perjury," the judge wrote.

Gleeson is a former Clinton appointee to the federal trial bench in the Eastern District of New York. The Bronx-born lawyer served as a judge for 22 years and is now a partner in New York with the elite defense law firm Debevoise & Plimpton.

He co-authored an op-ed in the Washington Post on Monday, in which he outlined options Sullivan still had to learn more about the case, resolve questions regarding it and how he could, after some legal inquiry, sentence Flynn. The op-ed even made the suggestion Sullivan could appoint a third-party lawyer like Gleeson.

"There has been nothing regular about the department's effort to dismiss the Flynn case. The record reeks of improper political influence," the op-ed said.
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« Reply #34267 on: May 14, 2020, 12:03:35 AM »
Somebody repeated the claim by an unnamed NSC member that the Obama-period Pandemic Playbook was "dated."

Here's one of the dated pages from it:
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« Reply #34268 on: May 14, 2020, 12:06:56 AM »
I believe this is the full ignored playbook.

I'm not an epidemiologist and don't play one on TV. Nor am I an expert in pandemics. But looking at this, it sure seems to have up-to-date guidelines in it that could have been useful.

I would also note that the NSC does not have folks better trained than I am in this regard, despite my lack of training.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6819268/Pandemic-Playbook.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2swJkEHugU1Zp-CvBlvqnaKfPa3yFxiTv_b94Ktu9POqe72n376NcTyzo
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« Reply #34269 on: May 14, 2020, 12:31:54 AM »
I think today (5/13, not 14) is the first time somebody I know/knew has died of COVID-19.

Not somebody I knew well, though somebody I know who was well loved and who touched a ton of lives for the better.

I suspect he will not be the last, but the first has brought more than enough sorrow with his passing.

May the majority of those who pass because of this premature reopening come from the legions of those who support the opening and not those who oppose it.
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« Reply #34270 on: May 14, 2020, 01:47:32 AM »
Quote from: josh on May 14, 2020, 12:03:35 AM
Somebody repeated the claim by an unnamed NSC member that the Obama-period Pandemic Playbook was "dated."

Here's one of the dated pages from it:


So that’s the Obamagate everyone’s talking about.

Trump is failing to recognize or act on something he was specifically warned about by the nation’s best experts responsibly and respectfully given to him by his predecessor, a legitimate President, Barack Obama.

It’s not looking like trump will survive Obamagate, if that’s what he wants to call his homicidal negligence. It’s already the greatest single fuckup in American presidential history. 
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« Reply #34271 on: May 14, 2020, 02:11:42 AM »
http://www.salon.com/2020/05/13/trump-flunkies-try-to-scapegoat-anthony-fauci--but-we-all-know-whos-really-to-blame/

It’s hard to see how Obamagate doesn’t spring from Russiagate, which everyone who has seen the tapes knows is all trump’s fault.

Stupid criminals make terrible presidents which is why you can never trust a person backed by the republican party.
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« Reply #34272 on: May 14, 2020, 02:15:27 AM »
http://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/13/senate-browsing-histories-fisa-254970

It would be nice if they actually got this closer to right this time around.
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« Reply #34273 on: May 14, 2020, 02:24:06 AM »
Quote from: facilitatorn on May 14, 2020, 02:15:27 AM
http://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/13/senate-browsing-histories-fisa-254970

It would be nice if they actually got this closer to right this time around.

Strange bedfellows on that.
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« Reply #34274 on: May 14, 2020, 02:45:48 AM »
Here's a good and long article on the origins of the coronavirus.

https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/a-failed-deception-the-early-days-of-the-coronavirus-outbreak-in-wuhan-a-70effc1e-0200-440f-bb62-07cda261de11

Basically China's Patient Zero who worked at the fish market in Wuhan started becoming sick on Dec 20, checked into hospital Dec 26.  Flu tests negative. CT scan showed bad pneumonia.  Sample sent off to a Shanghai lab.  Dec 30, SH lab confirmed it was a novel coronavirus.  Same time frame, another Wuhan case involved a husband and wife with the same pneumonia and their son had it too but was asymptomatic.

Dec 30 two doctors alert friends and colleagues via social media app that there is a new coronavirus and to stay away from the fish market. 
Dec 31, local officials acknowledge new coronavirus
Dec 31 Wuhan fish market is closed and cleaned by folks with hazmat suits.
Jan 1 Novel Coronavirus reported to WHO

So that's all pretty good.
But Wuhan and Hubei officials start covering up and delaying reporting infectious cases to Beijing.
And it's not until Jan 23 that Wuhan is locked down.
That's the 3 week period where China didn't react quickly and allowed the virus to proliferate. 

the Der Spiegel article blames the local and provincial authorities for keeping Beijing in the dark for 2+ weeks.  They have Beijing knowing what was really going on only on until Jan 18 -20 and locking down Jan 23.

I'm not sure if the provincial authorities are only to blame.  They hid info of a possible epidemic from Beijing ... for what purpose?  Usually you cover up so something won't get out, or to benefit from a delay.  Well, the word was going to get out, and the delay wasn't going to be beneficial.  So I don't see what their endgame was.  If you handle an epidemic badly and hide it from Beijing , you'll be fired at best and might go to jail.  If you pass on the (bad) news to Beijing, you become a cog in the chain of authority,the responsibility shifts up a level, and you're mostly off the hook.

I suspect when Beijing knew about the coronoavirus has been soft-pedaled to make Beijing look fairly responsible and heap the blame for 2.5 weeks of delay on Hubei.
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