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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #52920 on: October 09, 2020, 01:32:24 PM »

1. There are over 213K Americans who caught it and did NOT get better."


3 in a hundred - but this is inclusive of the early days

What is the rate now?

The COVID will continue to kill more Americans this year, and only is outranked by cancer (all forms) and heart disease. That's the primary accomplishment of the Trump WH.

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« Reply #52921 on: October 09, 2020, 01:36:33 PM »

Judge Amy Coney Barrett failed to disclose two talks she gave in 2013 hosted by two anti-abortion student groups on paperwork provided to the Senate ahead of her confirmation hearing to become the next Supreme Court justice.

Barrett, President Donald Trump's nominee to succeed Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, gave the talks -- a lecture and a seminar -- in 2013 in her capacity as a law professor at the University of Notre Dame. The seminar was co-sponsored by the school's Right to Life club and constitutional studies minor, and the lecture was held by the law school's Jus Vitae club. CNN's KFile found advertisements for two lectures on social media and in a weekly Notre Dame faculty newsletter.

It is not known what was said in the two events, though both centered on abortion court cases. In a separate instance, CNN's KFile found a publicized talk that Barrett gave to coincide with the 40th anniversary of Roe v. Wade -- a seminar Barrett disclosed in her Senate paperwork -- was removed by the university from YouTube in 2014. A school spokesman told CNN the video is now lost.


Uh, yeah. We LOST that video. You know, things happen. Maybe it fell down an elevator shaft or something, you know?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #52922 on: October 09, 2020, 01:41:44 PM »

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Arizona is one of the few states that never made masks mandatory statewide. But allowing cities to impose their own restrictions — while also shutting down businesses such as bars and gyms — contributed to a 75 percent drop in coronavirus cases in less than one month, according to a new analysis from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The state suffered one of the world’s worst coronavirus outbreaks over the summer, with infections peaking after stay-at-home orders were lifted. In mid-June, Gov. Doug Ducey (R) lifted an executive order that had banned communities from imposing mask mandates. Most cities immediately began requiring face coverings in public, and the CDC report estimates that those local ordinances affected roughly 85 percent of the state’s population.

The number of new cases being reported each day stabilized about two weeks later, around the same time that Ducey closed bars, gyms, water parks and movie theaters. With that two-pronged approach in place, the seven-day average of new cases fell 75 percent from July 13 to Aug. 7, the researchers found.

So it took until mid-July for the governor to allow (/stop preventing) localities to make masks mandatory.   Masks + closing bars/gyms/theaters greatly reduced transmission starting in two weeks.  Gee, what a surprise.

Just imagine if AZ actually made mask wearing mandatory statewide, and also shut down restaurants and had a limit on gatherings (10 or whatever).  Within 4 weeks they could be nearly virus free, but for some reason didn't choose that route.
Ridiculous.
While blocking cities and towns form mandating masks locally is gross negligence and should be criminal.  I'm sure that policy resulted in deaths.


Mitch McTurtle:
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"If any of you've been around me since May the 1st, I've said 'wear your mask, practice social distancing, it's the only way we know of to prevent the spread until we get a vaccine," he said. "And we've practiced that in the Senate. Now you've heard about other places that have had a different view and they are, you know, paying the price for it."

What happened to April?  March?  February?
Still better than most GOPers, I guess.
But still belated.

Don't the Righties understand that taking action early was the most effective response?  And waiting until the spread has occurred makes it harder to stop, and infects, sickens, kill more?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #52923 on: October 09, 2020, 01:57:37 PM »

Understanding that something they did was murderously stupid and being willing to take the rap for it are two very different thing.

In addition to all being liars, the vast majority of republicans are also sniveling cowards.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #52924 on: October 09, 2020, 02:01:19 PM »

Judge Amy Coney Barrett failed to disclose two talks she gave in 2013 hosted by two anti-abortion student groups on paperwork provided to the Senate ahead of her confirmation hearing to become the next Supreme Court justice.
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Uh, yeah. We LOST that video. You know, things happen. Maybe it fell down an elevator shaft or something, you know?

a) failure to disclose it should be disqualifying.

b) I wonder if folks have gone looking for it on the Internet Archive, yet. They're down for maintenance, but I will take a gander later.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #52925 on: October 09, 2020, 02:07:37 PM »

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/10/ex-nj-gov-chris-christie-remains-hospitalized-for-covid-19.html

He went into the hospital on Saturday. He hadn't tweeted since Monday as of yesterday.

I am sure he is heartened by Trump's words on the topic. You get sick and then you get better.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #52926 on: October 09, 2020, 02:20:25 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #52927 on: October 09, 2020, 02:25:29 PM »

Just a few bad apples...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/08/portland-protests-medics-police

Report shows that the police targeted medics with their teargas and projectiles.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #52928 on: October 09, 2020, 02:26:54 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #52929 on: October 09, 2020, 02:36:37 PM »

Per the company, there are doses available for approximately 50,000 patients and it expects to have doses available for 300,000 patients in total within the next few months.





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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #52932 on: October 09, 2020, 03:03:58 PM »

Congress should convert the Thurmond Rule from an urban legend into actual legislation, settling on a specific set of criteria for closeness to a presidential election.  For example, ACB was nominated 38 days from the election (the shortest distance from the election in history).  One criteria could be to look at early voting dates.  In South Dakota, that was Sept. 18th, which means that I could have already voted before Barrett's nomination.  So one possibility would be to say that no nominations can be made after the earliest states begin voting, which would provide a fairly rational demarcation point.
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Let’s just stop ANY action by Governments doing ANYTHING Barton doesn’t like once early voting starts.
Why are the debates staged AFTER early voting starts?
More important why does any serious voter want to vote early BEFORE the campaigns are over?
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« Reply #52933 on: October 09, 2020, 03:26:34 PM »

Congress should convert the Thurmond Rule from an urban legend into actual legislation, settling on a specific set of criteria for closeness to a presidential election.  For example, ACB was nominated 38 days from the election (the shortest distance from the election in history).  One criteria could be to look at early voting dates.  In South Dakota, that was Sept. 18th, which means that I could have already voted before Barrett's nomination.  So one possibility would be to say that no nominations can be made after the earliest states begin voting, which would provide a fairly rational demarcation point.
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Let’s just stop ANY action by Governments doing ANYTHING Barton doesn’t like once early voting starts.
Why are the debates staged AFTER early voting starts?
More important why does any serious voter want to vote early BEFORE the campaigns are over?

Responding without expectation of engagement.

Because at 200,000 deaths from COVID-19, more than half of which are directly attributable to the Liar-in-Chief, they did not need more campaigning to know that Biden would be better for the country.

Let alone dealing with the climate, which Trump refuses to do; taking children from their families and intentionally losing the records of where they were put; lying repeatedly about having a plan for health care, while trying to eliminate/destroy ACA; and a host of other similarly ill-considered moves.

Why would anybody wait for Trump and Pence to lie even more before voting?!

Again, not expecting rational conversation.
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« Reply #52934 on: October 09, 2020, 04:03:24 PM »

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