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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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josh

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #61740 on: January 05, 2021, 10:12:38 PM »
I expect we will know Warnock-Loeffler tonight, but not Ossoff-Perdue.

Ossoff's a bit behind Warnock in numbers.
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« Reply #61741 on: January 05, 2021, 10:26:13 PM »
Warlock running a bit ahead of Ossoff.

Loeffler was a poor candidate and got a bit wacky, embracing Trump so much and spreading his message of fear (Socialism!  Radical!)

Perdue is a stuffed shirt, but at least presents himself as old boy country club guy.
Perdue didn't do himself any favors by ducking Ossoff ("Perdue Chicken") and having to quarantine at the end didn't help and made him look iffy.

The embrace of Trump has been awkward, as Trump flails wildly and tosses out all these election fraud conspiracy charges.  Plus Loeffler and Perdue then had to infight with the GA GOP, criticizing the Sec of State and Guv.  Trump didn't do them any favors.

Early indications are Warnock should knock off Loeffler and Ossoff with a good chance in a slightly tighter race.  Lotta votes to come in form ATL and environs with Dems trailing by small numbers prior.

A full Blue Congress would be a nice repudiation of Trump and McConnell.
And allow Biden to hit the ground running.  Also a nice boost for Kamala "Tiebreaker" Harris.

Hopefully the mini-Blue wave pans out.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #61742 on: January 05, 2021, 10:29:13 PM »
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My sense is Perdue and Loeffler could have survived any 2 of these 3:
being unimpressive candidates; GA shifting purple; and Trump being a maniac.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #61743 on: January 05, 2021, 10:34:05 PM »
Quote from: josh on January 05, 2021, 10:12:38 PM
I expect we will know Warnock-Loeffler tonight, but not Ossoff-Perdue.

Ossoff's a bit behind Warnock in numbers.

Nah, man - this is going days at least
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #61744 on: January 05, 2021, 10:37:30 PM »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #61745 on: January 05, 2021, 10:39:23 PM »
Quote from: luee on January 05, 2021, 10:37:30 PM
oops, now reps lead

https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/georgia-senate-election-results/

Yes, but with the bulk of what is remaining likely to split for the Dems - the only question remaining is how much so.
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« Reply #61746 on: January 05, 2021, 10:42:37 PM »
Quote from: luee on January 05, 2021, 10:37:30 PM
oops, now reps lead

https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/georgia-senate-election-results/

heh

We love ya, Luee

Huge chunks of Dem votes still to come.

Could we have a recount?  Seems like it may be close enough for that.

Wouldnt that be special?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #61747 on: January 05, 2021, 10:53:24 PM »
"Some Dem strategists are now saying IT IS OVER"

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #61748 on: January 05, 2021, 10:55:25 PM »
Ossoff running 16K votes behind Warnock.
Or,
Perdue running 16K ahead of Laugher.

Close races.

Biden only won GA by 12,000 votes.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #61749 on: January 05, 2021, 10:58:48 PM »
DeKalb County saying now it may take all night to count

Why?
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« Reply #61750 on: January 05, 2021, 10:59:34 PM »
"Extremely suspicious - and unnecessary"

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« Reply #61751 on: January 05, 2021, 11:03:49 PM »
"Optimistic that we will have a winner by lunch time tomorrow"

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #61752 on: January 05, 2021, 11:04:28 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/05/politics/mike-pence-donald-trump-congress-election/index.html

Pence informs Trump that he has no way to block Biden's win.

It's over.

Or perhaps overer.
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« Reply #61753 on: January 05, 2021, 11:10:08 PM »
Cant be closer

119K lead for Perdue (forget Loeffler)

170K outstanding in Dekalb

If you give them 82-18% - that comes very close to erasing the entire 119K

Some Republican rurals outstanding...

BUT

we still have provisionals, drop boxes and militaries to count later

Imagine - 4 mil+ votes and within .5%

Dramatic indeed.

As I said - whoever is declared loser will claim shenanigans, so that fun still lies ahead
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #61754 on: January 05, 2021, 11:19:16 PM »
"The 171K outstanding votes in DeKalb was actually 117 - mistake made in report"

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