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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #62505 on: January 10, 2021, 09:20:17 AM »

This years police have been told to be less forceful, more understanding, and less committed to violence.  Now they are under attack for not shooting on sight at the capital building. Prez elect says, somewhat cynically, we all know what would have happened if they were black. Probably the same exact thing.

Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit
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« Reply #62506 on: January 10, 2021, 10:22:41 AM »

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« Reply #62507 on: January 10, 2021, 10:34:16 AM »

Just sharing because it's amazing to see this:
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/giant-sinkhole-consumes-cars-naples-hospital-parking-lot-75130606

Sink holes scare me.
They just swallow you up, well down actually.

Where are you on suspicious-looking moles?   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #62508 on: January 10, 2021, 10:48:10 AM »

Capitol Police announces the death of another officer: “The United States Capitol Police is deeply saddened by the off-duty death of Officer Howard Liebengood, age 51.  He was assigned to the Senate Division, and has been with the Department since April 2005.”
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #62509 on: January 10, 2021, 10:51:22 AM »

Just sharing because it's amazing to see this:
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/giant-sinkhole-consumes-cars-naples-hospital-parking-lot-75130606

Sink holes scare me.
They just swallow you up, well down actually.

Where are you on suspicious-looking moles?

I usually get a referral to a dermatologist.
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« Reply #62510 on: January 10, 2021, 10:56:30 AM »

Kam, kudos to your series (catching up with last five pages) exposing the putrid underbelly of Trumpism.  Maya A.  springs to mind,  "when someone shows you who they are,  believe them the first time."   
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« Reply #62511 on: January 10, 2021, 10:58:45 AM »

Capitol Police announces the death of another officer: “The United States Capitol Police is deeply saddened by the off-duty death of Officer Howard Liebengood, age 51.  He was assigned to the Senate Division, and has been with the Department since April 2005.”

Sounds like it was a suicide and that he may not have been on the site on the 6th. His father had been Senate Sgt. at Arms until his death - I want to say about when Howard (the younger) joined the CP.

But information still to come.
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« Reply #62512 on: January 10, 2021, 11:00:10 AM »

As CNN has previously reported, there have been no credible allegations of any issues with voting that would have impacted the election, as affirmed by dozens of judges, governors, election officials, the Electoral College, the Justice Department, the Department of Homeland Security, and the US Supreme Court.



hahahahahahahahahaaaaa

So, genius... report those affirmed by the law credible allegations of voting issues.

We will wait.
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« Reply #62513 on: January 10, 2021, 11:06:58 AM »

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polices-tepid-response-to-the-capitol-breach-wasnt-an-aberration

Law enforcement treats leftist groups more aggressively than it does right wing groups.

It isn't just race, either, for all that that, too, exists.

It's not an opinion, it's a pattern. It's persistent. And it's a problem.

Or, as I have said before, we have a police problem.

Most in law enforcement are conservative by nature.They may have a natural bias towards those who do not naturally share their world view. This should not be news to you, josh, especially if you grew up in the 1960's.
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« Reply #62514 on: January 10, 2021, 11:23:55 AM »

If these traitors try to disrupt the inauguration what do you think should happen to them?

Smart people would keep them well away from the area then.
Not there, no trouble.
Easy.

THE WHITE HOUSE
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 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20500

THE CAPITOL BUILDING
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 First St SE, Washington, DC 20004

SUPREME COURT BUILDING
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 1 First St NE, Washington, DC 20543

The Assembly

The initial assembly of patriots will be at the steps of the Capitol building in Washington DC, and will continue to build over the course of Saturday January 16, and, Sunday January 17, 2021.  There should be a state flag, and American flag, present for each state so patriots can gather with other patriots from their home states. If multiple flags are displayed for a state, each group should walk towards each other to become one group for that state.  We will gather for 2 hours each day starting at 12:00 noon so that numbers can be assessed. If at 2:00 on Sunday 1/17 it is becomes obvious that the will to fight for America against democrat tyranny is not strong enough for the turnout to be effective, the PAFA2021 will be declared a lost cause and Joseph Biden will be allowed to be inaugurated.   The estimated number of armed patriots needed for the PAFA2021 to move forward is approximately 15,000.  This number would allow a force of 4,000 patriots per location in Washington, D.C., and establish road blocks at set locations to assist in maintaining order at the lock down points. At these roadblocks, patriot forces will also assist law enforcement in subduing any violence that may arise as a result of the PAFA2021.  It needs to be reiterated that if at ANY point during the PAFA2021, patriot forces encounter physical attack or gun fire, that event will be classified as an initiation of war against America and will officially change the classification of the PAFA2021 to civil war.  NO ONE JOB OR LOCATION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANOTHER DURING THIS ACTION.



Moving Forward

With a force of 4000 per location, we will encircle the grounds of each of the three facilities designated on this page.  The main purpose of surrounding the White House is to secure the grounds itself, along with President Trump, not allowing ANYONE in or out of the grounds unless designated permissible by the President himself on a one by one basis. Encircling the Capitol building will ensure that no democrat politicians gain access any longer for legislation to be discussed with them.  Republican representatives and senators will be allowed access to discuss legislation and continue business as usual without democrat interference.  At each facility, the ONLY entrance and exit open will be the main doors in the front of the buildings.  All other doors and entrances will be blocked with absolutely NO ONE going in or out through those doors.   



All patriot participants will be responsible for finding their own food and lodging.



Final details and execution methods have been established and will be revealed the afternoon of January 17th if the force is sufficient to move forward.



https://web.archive.org/web/20210106072816/https://pafa2021.com/how%2C-when%2C-where




Thanks, Kam. Also, from that site, there is a section in which questions are answered.

Check this out:

Is this an overthrow of the government?

NO!  Although Americans are well within their rights and duty based on the founding documents of America to perform a complete overthrow of our government, there are many parts of it that are still feasible and functional.  This is an action to prevent the inauguration of a falsely and fraudulently declared winner of the 2020 presidential election, and to unseat every democrat holding office in America who supported the attempted coup of a sitting president, and protected the fraud involved in the 2020 presidential election.  American and local governments will continue to function under Republican control until all unseated officials can be replaced with law abiding persons having good knowledge of the position being sought.


So, it's not an attempt to overthrow the government---just the members of the party we are against! What could be more American?

God, these fuckheads are so twisted in their thinking.

There are other gems on that website, most of which not only reveal stupidity and twisted idealogy, but some really bad writing! Check out these fine examples of idiocy:

The democrat party began it's decent into the radical abyss during the Vietnam Era with the anti war protests and hate towards returning soldiers.  It has continued down that path for the last 50 years until it has reached the socialistic communist ideology it now embraces and wishes to rule America with. 

 
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For 50 years Americans have suffered the oppressive, evil, ideology the democrats hold with the "long train of abuses" including some of the highest taxes American Citizens have ever Faced, overreaching and unconstitutional laws, bribery for votes with the promise of false freedoms, and the outright intrusion of big government into our personal lives, along with countless other unconstitutional offenses against American citizens all for the sole purpose of greed of power and money.


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Patriots who participate in this action will not fire a first shot, however, the patriots will defend themselves with extreme, and possibly fatal response, to any aggression which would prevent us from obtaining our goal of eliminating the democrat ideology from America forever. 


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That first aggression toward the patriot action, by ANY opposing force, whether it be shots fired, or physical assault, will bring an  official declaration of war.  Further, if this action does lead to war, a conclusion will not be declared until our goals are completed. There will be further explanation of war in the Rules of Engagement page.



Why January 16th?

We want to give President Trump and those who still stand for America as much time as possible to find a way through all the democrat  corruption which is preventing the election from being legitimate.  January 16th allows four days to setup for the actual process should war not be declared prior to that date.  The unintended irony of this date is that it is 30 years to the day that Operation Desert Storm began to drive Iraqi troops out of Kuwait.  That quick and decisive victory lasted about a month.

Love that part about the "unintended irony", because it demonstrates the muddled "thinking" of these morons, so well.

Okay, well, time to continue with our Democratic Party's "decent" into my "radical abyss".
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #62515 on: January 10, 2021, 11:25:49 AM »

Capitol Police announces the death of another officer: “The United States Capitol Police is deeply saddened by the off-duty death of Officer Howard Liebengood, age 51.  He was assigned to the Senate Division, and has been with the Department since April 2005.”

So, that's two murders aided and abetted by Trump, so far.

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« Reply #62516 on: January 10, 2021, 11:26:18 AM »

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polices-tepid-response-to-the-capitol-breach-wasnt-an-aberration

Law enforcement treats leftist groups more aggressively than it does right wing groups.

It isn't just race, either, for all that that, too, exists.

It's not an opinion, it's a pattern. It's persistent. And it's a problem.

Or, as I have said before, we have a police problem.

Most in law enforcement are conservative by nature.They may have a natural bias towards those who do not naturally share their world view. This should not be news to you, josh, especially if you grew up in the 1960's.

If it were only their conservatism that were at issue, while it would still represent a problem, it would not be as deep a set of issues. Still huge, but missing the abuse of power element.

How one deals with the "natural" bias is not a matter of nature alone, but of nurture as well. How one deals with power, as well.

But my point was not that police have a bias against this group or that, but that regardless of their biases, their conduct represents a societal problem. That has been my point for years. The problem is not changed by our current reforms, though some of its impact is lessened in some communities.

BTW, there is a difference between "conservative by nature" and "explicitly recruited for their white supremacist inclinations," which has been reported by the FBI for a good while now.
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« Reply #62517 on: January 10, 2021, 11:28:33 AM »

Capitol Police announces the death of another officer: “The United States Capitol Police is deeply saddened by the off-duty death of Officer Howard Liebengood, age 51.  He was assigned to the Senate Division, and has been with the Department since April 2005.”

So, that's two murders aided and abetted by Trump, so far.

Don't know why he suicided, yet,
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« Reply #62518 on: January 10, 2021, 11:31:19 AM »

18 U.S. Code § 2 - Principals
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(a)Whoever commits an offense against the United States or aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures its commission, is punishable as a principal.

(b)Whoever willfully causes an act to be done which if directly performed by him or another would be an offense against the United States, is punishable as a principal.


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2

Looks like Trump could go to jail for a long time, if he were prosecuted.
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« Reply #62519 on: January 10, 2021, 11:34:27 AM »

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polices-tepid-response-to-the-capitol-breach-wasnt-an-aberration

Law enforcement treats leftist groups more aggressively than it does right wing groups.

It isn't just race, either, for all that that, too, exists.

It's not an opinion, it's a pattern. It's persistent. And it's a problem.

Or, as I have said before, we have a police problem.

Most in law enforcement are conservative by nature.They may have a natural bias towards those who do not naturally share their world view. This should not be news to you, josh, especially if you grew up in the 1960's.

If it were only their conservatism that were at issue, while it would still represent a problem, it would not be as deep a set of issues. Still huge, but missing the abuse of power element.

How one deals with the "natural" bias is not a matter of nature alone, but of nurture as well. How one deals with power, as well.

But my point was not that police have a bias against this group or that, but that regardless of their biases, their conduct represents a societal problem. That has been my point for years. The problem is not changed by our current reforms, though some of its impact is lessened in some communities.

BTW, there is a difference between "conservative by nature" and "explicitly recruited for their white supremacist inclinations," which has been reported by the FBI for a good while now.

I think I understood your point. My post was to add flesh to the bone. What governments in the USA have provided for bias training for their officers?

BTW, I am pretty clear about the differences you mention at the last part of your post. Be careful not to read more into my posts than is written.
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