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Re: College Football
« Reply #3495 on: January 02, 2020, 12:45:55 PM »

So, using the final CFP rankings and adding in Memphis an 8 team playoff would be
LSU
tOSU
Clem
Okla
Oregon
Georgia
Wisconsin
Memphis

The first question is how many of those teams could win three times?
Answer is only the top three
Next who would care to watch LSU beat Memphis or tOSU play Wisconsin a third time.?
Answer is not many.
Who would pay to travel to watch those games?
Answer is even fewer.
Well, it is a mistake to set policy for all seasons based upon how that policy would function in a single instance. Most years would not have a rematch of a rematch in the first round. That being said, there is a reason why I think 6 teams would be better than 8. I can think of no arguments.against 6 that are not also applicable to 8 - except that, for this year, the team I consider to be the best team in the country would have to win 3 games. Although that would be ameliorated by getting to watch ClemSIN play Georgia.
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Re: College Football
« Reply #3496 on: January 02, 2020, 12:52:03 PM »

And Iím not making an argument, just laying out objective facts, not matters in dispute, I get nostagia for the way things *used to be* but Iím not going to endorse lousy practices...in a bang/bang play, bang you were in and bang you are gone, sfw??

One of my friends had a sister married to a Purdue football player. Preseason his senior year in practice, gets hit while snapping the ball and his neck is broken. Died right on the practice field.
So no body ....
This list of college players killed while playing football does not match your story. Perhaps you have the wrong team? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_football_players_who_died_during_their_careers


Jim,  You think someone would forget the school it happened at?

Out of curiosity, what is your level of confidence that Wikipedia's listing is complete?
Personally I trust wikipedia's over anyone's convenient example from personal experience posted on the internet. I always assume those are lies and am rarely disappointed.
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Re: College Football
« Reply #3497 on: January 02, 2020, 12:56:31 PM »

So, using the final CFP rankings and adding in Memphis an 8 team playoff would be
LSU
tOSU
Clem
Okla
Oregon
Georgia
Wisconsin
Memphis

The first question is how many of those teams could win three times?
Answer is only the top three
Next who would care to watch LSU beat Memphis or tOSU play Wisconsin a third time.?
Answer is not many.
Who would pay to travel to watch those games?
Answer is even fewer.
Well, it is a mistake to set policy for all seasons based upon how that policy would function in a single instance. Most years would not have a rematch of a rematch in the first round. That being said, there is a reason why I think 6 teams would be better than 8. I can think of no arguments.against 6 that are not also applicable to 8 - except that, for this year, the team I consider to be the best team in the country would have to win 3 games. Although that would be ameliorated by getting to watch ClemSIN play Georgia.
I see no reason why any year would be different than this one.
The elites are consistently better each year with much stronger budgets and recruiting. Six teams only adds one power five team to the mix(unless the Powers buy off the gang of five)

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Re: College Football
« Reply #3498 on: January 02, 2020, 02:22:48 PM »

Close to 40 years ago, a guy I knew destroyed his leg  and his future during an idiotic "football" drill at Ohio State. Google "Curt Curtis Ohio State".
« Last Edit: January 02, 2020, 02:24:19 PM by Yankguy1 »
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Re: College Football
« Reply #3499 on: January 02, 2020, 02:37:43 PM »

So, using the final CFP rankings and adding in Memphis an 8 team playoff would be
LSU
tOSU
Clem
Okla
Oregon
Georgia
Wisconsin
Memphis

The first question is how many of those teams could win three times?
Answer is only the top three
Next who would care to watch LSU beat Memphis or tOSU play Wisconsin a third time.?
Answer is not many.
Who would pay to travel to watch those games?
Answer is even fewer.
Well, it is a mistake to set policy for all seasons based upon how that policy would function in a single instance. Most years would not have a rematch of a rematch in the first round. That being said, there is a reason why I think 6 teams would be better than 8. I can think of no arguments.against 6 that are not also applicable to 8 - except that, for this year, the team I consider to be the best team in the country would have to win 3 games. Although that would be ameliorated by getting to watch ClemSIN play Georgia.
I see no reason why any year would be different than this one.
The elites are consistently better each year with much stronger budgets and recruiting. Six teams only adds one power five team to the mix(unless the Powers buy off the gang of five)
Yeah, for the 6 team model to work I just wrote the Gang of 5 out in favor of a 5 Conference champs, one wild card scenario. This year that would have meant Oklahoma - Georgia and ClemSIN - Oregon.
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Re: College Football
« Reply #3500 on: January 02, 2020, 02:45:13 PM »

So, using the final CFP rankings and adding in Memphis an 8 team playoff would be
LSU
tOSU
Clem
Okla
Oregon
Georgia
Wisconsin
Memphis

The first question is how many of those teams could win three times?
Answer is only the top three
Next who would care to watch LSU beat Memphis or tOSU play Wisconsin a third time.?
Answer is not many.
Who would pay to travel to watch those games?
Answer is even fewer.
Well, it is a mistake to set policy for all seasons based upon how that policy would function in a single instance. Most years would not have a rematch of a rematch in the first round. That being said, there is a reason why I think 6 teams would be better than 8. I can think of no arguments.against 6 that are not also applicable to 8 - except that, for this year, the team I consider to be the best team in the country would have to win 3 games. Although that would be ameliorated by getting to watch ClemSIN play Georgia.
I see no reason why any year would be different than this one.
The elites are consistently better each year with much stronger budgets and recruiting. Six teams only adds one power five team to the mix(unless the Powers buy off the gang of five)
Yeah, for the 6 team model to work I just wrote the Gang of 5 out in favor of a 5 Conference champs, one wild card scenario. This year that would have meant Oklahoma - Georgia and ClemSIN - Oregon.
And how do the games play out?
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Re: College Football
« Reply #3501 on: January 02, 2020, 02:50:42 PM »

So, using the final CFP rankings and adding in Memphis an 8 team playoff would be
LSU
tOSU
Clem
Okla
Oregon
Georgia
Wisconsin
Memphis

The first question is how many of those teams could win three times?
Answer is only the top three
Next who would care to watch LSU beat Memphis or tOSU play Wisconsin a third time.?
Answer is not many.
Who would pay to travel to watch those games?
Answer is even fewer.
Well, it is a mistake to set policy for all seasons based upon how that policy would function in a single instance. Most years would not have a rematch of a rematch in the first round. That being said, there is a reason why I think 6 teams would be better than 8. I can think of no arguments.against 6 that are not also applicable to 8 - except that, for this year, the team I consider to be the best team in the country would have to win 3 games. Although that would be ameliorated by getting to watch ClemSIN play Georgia.
I see no reason why any year would be different than this one.
The elites are consistently better each year with much stronger budgets and recruiting. Six teams only adds one power five team to the mix(unless the Powers buy off the gang of five)
Yeah, for the 6 team model to work I just wrote the Gang of 5 out in favor of a 5 Conference champs, one wild card scenario. This year that would have meant Oklahoma - Georgia and ClemSIN - Oregon.
And how do the games play out?
ClemSIN toasts Oregon, Georgia beats Oklahoma. So you still get Tigers/Tigers.
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Re: College Football
« Reply #3502 on: January 02, 2020, 03:23:57 PM »


ClemSIN toasts  Oregon, Georgia beats Oklahoma. So you still get Tigers/Tigers.

When and where do you play those games?
This year the available Saturdays would have been the 14th and 21st which already had NFL games.
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Re: College Football
« Reply #3503 on: January 02, 2020, 03:49:33 PM »

God's Conference dominated the bowl season this year. 6 - 2, including winning all three of its NY6 games.

yeah, but "They Suck" is a subjective term.
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Re: College Football
« Reply #3504 on: January 02, 2020, 03:50:39 PM »


ClemSIN toasts  Oregon, Georgia beats Oklahoma. So you still get Tigers/Tigers.

When and where do you play those games?
This year the available Saturdays would have been the 14th and 21st which already had NFL games.
Logistis tbd.
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Re: College Football
« Reply #3505 on: January 02, 2020, 04:06:04 PM »


ClemSIN toasts  Oregon, Georgia beats Oklahoma. So you still get Tigers/Tigers.

When and where do you play those games?
This year the available Saturdays would have been the 14th and 21st which already had NFL games.
Logistis tbd.
No matter how you determine logistics any schedule will reduce the potential tv ratings and the ticket buying interest. Plus it will give the top two teams two weeks of prep and recovery time.
Before we leap to expanding the number of games the NCAA needs to maximize revenues by getting the semis on NYD.
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Re: College Football
« Reply #3506 on: January 02, 2020, 04:25:07 PM »


ClemSIN toasts  Oregon, Georgia beats Oklahoma. So you still get Tigers/Tigers.

When and where do you play those games?
This year the available Saturdays would have been the 14th and 21st which already had NFL games.
Logistis tbd.
No matter how you determine logistics any schedule will reduce the potential tv ratings and the ticket buying interest. Plus it will give the top two teams two weeks of prep and recovery time.
Before we leap to expanding the number of games the NCAA needs to maximize revenues by getting the semis on NYD.
I agree with that last. Are you going to tell the Rose Bowl, or am I?

Either the Rose or the Sugar needs to give up their NYD slot. You might be able to throw money at the PAC or.Big 12, but it comes down to the Big 10 or the SEC blinking and that will be a long, long wait.
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Re: College Football
« Reply #3507 on: January 02, 2020, 04:41:11 PM »


ClemSIN toasts  Oregon, Georgia beats Oklahoma. So you still get Tigers/Tigers.

When and where do you play those games?
This year the available Saturdays would have been the 14th and 21st which already had NFL games.
Logistis tbd.
No matter how you determine logistics any schedule will reduce the potential tv ratings and the ticket buying interest. Plus it will give the top two teams two weeks of prep and recovery time.
Before we leap to expanding the number of games the NCAA needs to maximize revenues by getting the semis on NYD.
I agree with that last. Are you going to tell the Rose Bowl, or am I?

Either the Rose or the Sugar needs to give up their NYD slot. You might be able to throw money at the PAC or.Big 12, but it comes down to the Big 10 or the SEC blinking and that will be a long, long wait.
It is a $ number. That satisfies the step Bowls and the Two conferences.
It may be a number that is unattainable. 
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Re: College Football
« Reply #3508 on: January 02, 2020, 05:47:01 PM »

Old Mississippi has hired.D J Durkins to be defensive coordinator and run its off season conditioning program.  Kiffin promises."killer workouts".
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Re: College Football
« Reply #3509 on: January 02, 2020, 06:45:50 PM »

Old Mississippi has hired.D J Durkins to be defensive coordinator and run its off season conditioning program.  Kiffin promises."killer workouts".

I saw this morning that Kiffin had hired him.  I assume him being in charge of offseason conditioning was merely a part of your set up and not actually true?  That would be in poor taste if it were true...and I think even Kiffin is not quite that stupid
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