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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13290 on: May 01, 2019, 04:09:02 PM »

Quite the ass-kicking by Ms. Harris..
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« Reply #13291 on: May 01, 2019, 04:35:00 PM »

No matter how this is spun by the GOP Barr got clowned today. Tomorrow’s gonna be worse.

Have to like the points where Barr made clear that he hasn't actually read the Mueller Report.  Like when he testified that he did not know the nature of the referral from Australia, which was the impetus to the the FBI investigation.  That was in the report!
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« Reply #13292 on: May 01, 2019, 04:54:07 PM »

No matter how this is spun by the GOP Barr got clowned today. Tomorrow’s gonna be worse.

Have to like the points where Barr made clear that he hasn't actually read the Mueller Report.  Like when he testified that he did not know the nature of the referral from Australia, which was the impetus to the the FBI investigation.  That was in the report!

Or where he said that the Trump Campaign had no expectation of benefitting from Russia’s meddling (The Mueller Report said they did)

Or where he seems unaware that Trump’s campaign manager shared polling data with a Putin middle-man (covered over 7 pages of the Mueller Report)

Particularly where Barr signs on to the absurd notion that the Steele Dossier could be a Russian disinformation effort meant to hurt Trump.  The Mueller Report was 100% clear on who the Russians wanted to win the election.  It wasn’t Hillary Clinton.
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« Reply #13293 on: May 01, 2019, 05:00:45 PM »

Quite the ass-kicking by Ms. Harris..

"Can you repeat the question?" Hehe

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« Reply #13294 on: May 01, 2019, 06:00:44 PM »

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« Reply #13295 on: May 01, 2019, 06:05:33 PM »

I knew Barr would duff on the House hearing. He was gonna get shredded. The cake is baked and he is complicit.

His historic reputation is fucked and he really couldn’t give a shit.
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« Reply #13296 on: May 01, 2019, 06:34:07 PM »

I knew Barr would duff on the House hearing. He was gonna get shredded. The cake is baked and he is complicit.

His historic reputation is fucked and he really couldn’t give a shit.

We need to hear from Mueller now.
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« Reply #13297 on: May 01, 2019, 07:02:51 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/30/politics/new-york-trump-taxes/index.html

New York is about to pass a law requiring them to hand over tax returns that are requested by various US Congressional entities. This will get the NY state returns from Trump into the hands of the House.
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« Reply #13298 on: May 01, 2019, 07:03:31 PM »

Particularly where Barr signs on to the absurd notion that the Steele Dossier could be a Russian disinformation effort meant to hurt Trump.  The Mueller Report was 100% clear on who the Russians wanted to win the election.  It wasn’t Hillary Clinton.

Let’s talk for a minute how batshit this is, given that this apparently will become the basis of the GOP counter-investigation effort which Barr has now signed off on:

Mueller was clear (and didn’t need to explain it to anyone that had a brain) that the wide-ranging effort perpetrated by Russia in 2016 which included stolen emails, disseminating the stolen emails, spread of disinformation via social networks, and the hacking of election systems, was enacted in order to elect Donald Trump President.  And his campaign knew it.

Now we are to believe that despite all that, the Russians actually wanted Clinton to win, and to counteract the above effort they fed disinformation into a dossier that didn’t even come to light until after the election.  Huh.  I guess you could make an argument that Russia was attempting to discredit both candidates, you know, playing both sides, but that sure is an awfully uneven effort.  How is this argument even remotely justifiable to anyone who isn’t a completely partisan Trumpist (ie Barr?)

And it gets dumber when you realize how much real damage Russia could have done to Trump if they wanted to.  They knew Trump was trying to put together a Moscow Tower deal when Trump was on TV nightly denying any Russian business.  Why didn’t they say anything?  And Moscow has denied every instance of collusion with Trump when it has come up, when they knew Trump's campaign manager was passing on polling info to them. Putin even snidely celebrated the Mueller findings (as reported by Barr.)   If Russia wanted to hurt Trump with (dis)information, wouldn’t they be saying “Yeah, we colluded with Trump.  Lots.  Here.  We have the signed contracts…”  Heck, how hard would it be for them to produce audio of a pee tape?

Maybe much of the Steele Dossier turns out to be untrue (though some of it has been proven) but it was never meant to be the result of an in-depth investigation, and was not the basis of either the FBI investigation or the FISA warrants.  It’s totally absurd, given what we know happened before the election and how Trump has treated Putin afterwards, to contend that Russia’s intention was to use the Dossier to hurt Trump. 

Barr discredited himself in many ways today.  Giving credence to a nutball conspiracy theory obviously cooked up to distract from Trump’s real wrongdoing was the worst of it.
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« Reply #13299 on: May 01, 2019, 07:22:22 PM »

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« Reply #13300 on: May 01, 2019, 07:39:46 PM »

Particularly where Barr signs on to the absurd notion that the Steele Dossier could be a Russian disinformation effort meant to hurt Trump.  The Mueller Report was 100% clear on who the Russians wanted to win the election.  It wasn’t Hillary Clinton.

Let’s talk for a minute how batshit this is, given that this apparently will become the basis of the GOP counter-investigation effort which Barr has now signed off on:

Mueller was clear (and didn’t need to explain it to anyone that had a brain) that the wide-ranging effort perpetrated by Russia in 2016 which included stolen emails, disseminating the stolen emails, spread of disinformation via social networks, and the hacking of election systems, was enacted in order to elect Donald Trump President.  And his campaign knew it.

Now we are to believe that despite all that, the Russians actually wanted Clinton to win, and to counteract the above effort they fed disinformation into a dossier that didn’t even come to light until after the election.  Huh.  I guess you could make an argument that Russia was attempting to discredit both candidates, you know, playing both sides, but that sure is an awfully uneven effort.  How is this argument even remotely justifiable to anyone who isn’t a completely partisan Trumpist (ie Barr?)

And it gets dumber when you realize how much real damage Russia could have done to Trump if they wanted to.  They knew Trump was trying to put together a Moscow Tower deal when Trump was on TV nightly denying any Russian business.  Why didn’t they say anything?  And Moscow has denied every instance of collusion with Trump when it has come up, when they knew Trump's campaign manager was passing on polling info to them. Putin even snidely celebrated the Mueller findings (as reported by Barr.)   If Russia wanted to hurt Trump with (dis)information, wouldn’t they be saying “Yeah, we colluded with Trump.  Lots.  Here.  We have the signed contracts…”  Heck, how hard would it be for them to produce audio of a pee tape?

Maybe much of the Steele Dossier turns out to be untrue (though some of it has been proven) but it was never meant to be the result of an in-depth investigation, and was not the basis of either the FBI investigation or the FISA warrants.  It’s totally absurd, given what we know happened before the election and how Trump has treated Putin afterwards, to contend that Russia’s intention was to use the Dossier to hurt Trump. 

Barr discredited himself in many ways today.  Giving credence to a nutball conspiracy theory obviously cooked up to distract from Trump’s real wrongdoing was the worst of it.
Meanwhile Kirsten Gillibrand was playing beer pong but using only water.
Help is on the way America!
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« Reply #13301 on: May 01, 2019, 08:17:25 PM »

Particularly where Barr signs on to the absurd notion that the Steele Dossier could be a Russian disinformation effort meant to hurt Trump.  The Mueller Report was 100% clear on who the Russians wanted to win the election.  It wasn’t Hillary Clinton.

Let’s talk for a minute how batshit this is, given that this apparently will become the basis of the GOP counter-investigation effort which Barr has now signed off on:

Mueller was clear (and didn’t need to explain it to anyone that had a brain) that the wide-ranging effort perpetrated by Russia in 2016 which included stolen emails, disseminating the stolen emails, spread of disinformation via social networks, and the hacking of election systems, was enacted in order to elect Donald Trump President.  And his campaign knew it.

Now we are to believe that despite all that, the Russians actually wanted Clinton to win, and to counteract the above effort they fed disinformation into a dossier that didn’t even come to light until after the election.  Huh.  I guess you could make an argument that Russia was attempting to discredit both candidates, you know, playing both sides, but that sure is an awfully uneven effort.  How is this argument even remotely justifiable to anyone who isn’t a completely partisan Trumpist (ie Barr?)

And it gets dumber when you realize how much real damage Russia could have done to Trump if they wanted to.  They knew Trump was trying to put together a Moscow Tower deal when Trump was on TV nightly denying any Russian business.  Why didn’t they say anything?  And Moscow has denied every instance of collusion with Trump when it has come up, when they knew Trump's campaign manager was passing on polling info to them. Putin even snidely celebrated the Mueller findings (as reported by Barr.)   If Russia wanted to hurt Trump with (dis)information, wouldn’t they be saying “Yeah, we colluded with Trump.  Lots.  Here.  We have the signed contracts…”  Heck, how hard would it be for them to produce audio of a pee tape?

Maybe much of the Steele Dossier turns out to be untrue (though some of it has been proven) but it was never meant to be the result of an in-depth investigation, and was not the basis of either the FBI investigation or the FISA warrants.  It’s totally absurd, given what we know happened before the election and how Trump has treated Putin afterwards, to contend that Russia’s intention was to use the Dossier to hurt Trump. 

Barr discredited himself in many ways today.  Giving credence to a nutball conspiracy theory obviously cooked up to distract from Trump’s real wrongdoing was the worst of it.
Meanwhile Kirsten Gillibrand was playing beer pong but using only water.
Help is on the way America!

Meanwhile, Ward continues to refuse to address the corrupt practices of the President of the United States; continues to fail to discuss the kidnapping and mistreatment of thousands of children along with the refusal of those charged with their care to bother keeping track of where they put them; and continues to refuse to discuss the ongoing racist, misogynistic, and classist bullshit that comes out of the mouths of GOP elected and appointed officials or out of the legislative groups controlled by said GOP officials.

And somehow, Ward, you think that Gillibrand's water pong is a worse putdown than what your party is doing.

You remain a disgusting amoral hypocrite.
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« Reply #13302 on: May 01, 2019, 08:18:26 PM »

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« Reply #13303 on: May 01, 2019, 08:44:17 PM »

Particularly where Barr signs on to the absurd notion that the Steele Dossier could be a Russian disinformation effort meant to hurt Trump.  The Mueller Report was 100% clear on who the Russians wanted to win the election.  It wasn’t Hillary Clinton.

Let’s talk for a minute how batshit this is, given that this apparently will become the basis of the GOP counter-investigation effort which Barr has now signed off on:

Mueller was clear (and didn’t need to explain it to anyone that had a brain) that the wide-ranging effort perpetrated by Russia in 2016 which included stolen emails, disseminating the stolen emails, spread of disinformation via social networks, and the hacking of election systems, was enacted in order to elect Donald Trump President.  And his campaign knew it.

Now we are to believe that despite all that, the Russians actually wanted Clinton to win, and to counteract the above effort they fed disinformation into a dossier that didn’t even come to light until after the election.  Huh.  I guess you could make an argument that Russia was attempting to discredit both candidates, you know, playing both sides, but that sure is an awfully uneven effort.  How is this argument even remotely justifiable to anyone who isn’t a completely partisan Trumpist (ie Barr?)

And it gets dumber when you realize how much real damage Russia could have done to Trump if they wanted to.  They knew Trump was trying to put together a Moscow Tower deal when Trump was on TV nightly denying any Russian business.  Why didn’t they say anything?  And Moscow has denied every instance of collusion with Trump when it has come up, when they knew Trump's campaign manager was passing on polling info to them. Putin even snidely celebrated the Mueller findings (as reported by Barr.)   If Russia wanted to hurt Trump with (dis)information, wouldn’t they be saying “Yeah, we colluded with Trump.  Lots.  Here.  We have the signed contracts…”  Heck, how hard would it be for them to produce audio of a pee tape?

Maybe much of the Steele Dossier turns out to be untrue (though some of it has been proven) but it was never meant to be the result of an in-depth investigation, and was not the basis of either the FBI investigation or the FISA warrants.  It’s totally absurd, given what we know happened before the election and how Trump has treated Putin afterwards, to contend that Russia’s intention was to use the Dossier to hurt Trump. 

Barr discredited himself in many ways today.  Giving credence to a nutball conspiracy theory obviously cooked up to distract from Trump’s real wrongdoing was the worst of it.
Meanwhile Kirsten Gillibrand was playing beer pong but using only water.
Help is on the way America!

Meanwhile, Ward continues to refuse to address the corrupt practices of the President of the United States; continues to fail to discuss the kidnapping and mistreatment of thousands of children along with the refusal of those charged with their care to bother keeping track of where they put them; and continues to refuse to discuss the ongoing racist, misogynistic, and classist bullshit that comes out of the mouths of GOP elected and appointed officials or out of the legislative groups controlled by said GOP officials.

And somehow, Ward, you think that Gillibrand's water pong is a worse putdown than what your party is doing.

You remain a disgusting amoral hypocrite.
ROFL!
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