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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: January 20, 2021, 11:59:52 AM »
Josh, time to remove "Trump administration" as the main political thread?
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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: January 19, 2021, 03:33:45 PM »Get guns off the streets. Get them out of the hands of criminals, lunatics, right wing extremists, and other Rambo fantasy incels in Kid’s peer group.
I like CJ's brief aside on gun control in the season 2 opener of West Wing. Pointing out all the people shot that day besides Bartlett and Josh. Kid should review that.
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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: January 19, 2021, 03:30:34 PM »
Whoa. Doesn't look good.
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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: January 19, 2021, 03:07:11 PM »
The Kid found a senseless shooting of an unarmed person who didn't fight back that he can really get upset about.
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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: January 18, 2021, 08:41:07 PM »
LoL. Guess not.
Here's a modern riff on the Dr Faustus ending....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y2wqkD2KVM
(at the end of the scene, demons drag the rotten kid's ghost down to Hell)
Here's a modern riff on the Dr Faustus ending....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y2wqkD2KVM
(at the end of the scene, demons drag the rotten kid's ghost down to Hell)
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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: January 18, 2021, 01:30:44 PM »
Control of both houses of Congress is absolute political control.
You know nothing about the US government.
Conservative Supreme Court. Republican dominated state legislatures. Internal party divisions over issues. Constitutional checks on power. Strong corporate pressures. Etc. Good Lord you're dumb.
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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: January 18, 2021, 01:25:05 PM »Try to be a little less critical....
You mean stuff like calling Sen. Warren a cunt?
Excellent suggestion.
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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: January 17, 2021, 06:11:05 PM »
No need to respond. My point was clear. He is free to misread it and rant incoherently.
Didn't misread. You did. He's not saying a humanitarian person doesn't deserve respect. He's saying doctors don't get to decide their treatment plans on who's been naughty and nice. They don't get to make fat smoker dude wait gasping for oxygen because they've judged his whole life and decided he's not Mother Theresa.
I worked in a hospital. Medical ethics is seeing all human lives as having value, and making decisions on urgency of need, and least harm.
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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: January 17, 2021, 11:38:47 AM »https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/smokers-in-nj-will-get-access-to-covid-vaccine-before-general-public/2830615/
If you teach in New Jersey, you have to wait to get your vaccine behind....wait for it....
people who smoke!
The medical profession can't be in the business of making moral judgments on patients. If I'm in the ER with my hand bleeding and there's a guy with COPD who can't breathe, they're taking him first regardless of his smoking history.
I would like my schoolteacher daughter to be early in line, though, because that protects potentially hundreds of people.
Isn't giving a vaccine a moral judgement? And these smokers put themselves at risk by choices they made to meet the needs of themselves only. Your daughter put herself at risk by choices she made to meet the needs of others.
Isn't the phrase, "first do no harm" calling for making a moral judgement?
Not exactly. Medicine has a moral basis. But making personal judgments about patients sinfulness is not part of that, as you must surely be aware. Doctors don't backburner diabetic patients because they always ate too many cookies when they could have had an apple. They do triage on the basis of what patients, in this moment, are most in need, a practical and humane standard that is centuries old and not controversial. My daughter kayaks, and has dad's robust immune system, so her risk is much lower than a COPD sufferer. If all other factors were discounted, the COPD person would go first. ( The question of moving her up the line was a practical one of the impact on public health and older relatives of pupils. One could ask the same question regarding supermarket cashiers, et al)
Public health measures, like vaccines, tend to rely on utilitarian ethics rather than individual virtue, isn't that the case? IOW, what will help the most people as soon as possible and save the most lives? That's more judgment-neutral (judgment used here in the personal sense of judging a particular person).
All i know is that the excessively overweight, smoking, did-it-too-him/herself self-indulgent couch potato goes ahead instead of the person who acts responsibly and acts for others.
If you're okay with that, then that tells us something.
You responded to none of his point. My reading is he's saying that doctors can't be judgmental about lifestyle, though he may personally disapprove. If we did triage based on who's least self-indulgent, we'd empty most of the wards and replace them with sports injuries and mountaineering accidents.
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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: January 15, 2021, 01:38:41 PM »
Will have to read the whole article to see if that holds water for me. I was thinking Biden might turn out fairly centrist. If that's not the case, then his admin will be more interesting than I'd expected.
It will be good if the xenophobes (I prefer this term to "white people" btw) can clear their heads and see that no one in the administration will be out to defund the police. False slogans are harder to rinse off than true ones.
It will be good if the xenophobes (I prefer this term to "white people" btw) can clear their heads and see that no one in the administration will be out to defund the police. False slogans are harder to rinse off than true ones.
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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: January 13, 2021, 05:37:01 PM »
All math aside, I find it depressing that only ten, from purplish districts, would repudiate Trump. The John Adams quote springs to mind.
One useless man is a tragedy, two are a law firm, three or more are a government.
One useless man is a tragedy, two are a law firm, three or more are a government.
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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: January 13, 2021, 10:48:42 AM »
Very clever of the global Jewish conspiracy, the way they replaced Aaron Mostofsky with a Jew, apparently via time travel. Now I'm concerned I'll wake up in the morning and find I'm Jewish. And a caveman. Oy veh!
The investigations are going to be tricky separating the real bad actors from the dimwit tourists who were just following a crowd, taking selfies, and swiping souvenirs. The best principle is: the fish rots from the head.
The investigations are going to be tricky separating the real bad actors from the dimwit tourists who were just following a crowd, taking selfies, and swiping souvenirs. The best principle is: the fish rots from the head.
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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: January 12, 2021, 01:45:03 PM »Reviewing the events of the past year alone can anyone speculate as to what depths Trump and his supporters wouldn't descend?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/12/manatee-trump-florida/
The manatee lay still, floating in the shallow waters of a Florida river over the weekend when a woman on a boat noticed something odd. As she moved closer and filmed with her phone, Hailey Warrington found a one-word message scrawled on the marine mammal’s back: “TRUMP.”
“This is just disturbing. One hundred percent disturbing,” Warrington, who discovered the defaced manatee in the Homosassa River, told the Sarasota Herald-Tribune.
Now federal and local authorities are investigating who is responsible for etching the president’s name on the threatened animal’s back. Harassment of a manatee is a criminal offense punishable by a $50,000 fine and up to a year in prison....